Contaminated air incident/Are you sure your facility has clean air?

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opiniongirl

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How many of you out there connect a 5-star facility with pure air, properly changed filters, and quarterly analysis?

I was a MI and counted on it, so did the rest of our training team. Guess what? The owner lied many times over (as we never saw maintenance). Guess what else? His air intake was 4 feet above the ground in a parking lot. No filter changes, no maintenance, no air analysis for years...

No problems, either, until there was construction in same parking lot. Result? I almost died, our team got sick, a student went to the hospital (me along with her, freaking out about her injury). Neurological problems, heart problems, speech problems, lung problems for a total of 4 of us...carbon monoxide doesn't have an odor, so the ol "smell and taste bad" dosen't do squat. Red lips and nail beds? Not in cold water!

And what help did we get? Cover it up...our member agency is slicker than KY...the instructors left holding the bag...and my student is still sick. Of course, no tests can be done to prove it (much to our employers delight) apart from now multiple very angry customers. What's left to do besides go to court? How the hell did this happen?

The owner was lazy, member organization was lazy, and medical profession here has their heads up their asses that this can never happen. Save for a small group of trained physicians, who are sickened by how many people have the same experiences, and are up for the challenge of changing standards to ensure member organizations enforce air analysis and proper compressor procedures. Don't think there's long term damage? Ask DAN!

As a dive professional, my career is over for an indeterminate period of time. My students are still having problems. All because I thought member organizations looked out for this in my area. They didn't, and my employer was negligent.

MY point? Make sure your employer follows proper air procedures (mine lied), ask to see the certificate! If this happens to you, it is difficult to prove (but not impossible if you have a good lawyer). Nothing I can do (WCB) but you can tell who we will be testifying against when my student sues?

If you're a student, or a diver - demand to see the certificate of pure air. By standards, facilities need to have air analyzed quarterly for contaminants (regions may have stricter requirements however)

Anyone else out there know facilities who don't follow this standard? Anyone else have a similar incident? This has got to be changed - not only to protect instructors health, but to also make sure that a student is never injured again by a lazy-*** owner. These people have NO idea - and their told that member facilities are "pure air" and reputable stations.
 
Spectre:
It's my understanding that PADI is pretty serious about the gas analysis records of their accredited facilities.

Have you reported it to them?


Turns out they didn't treat it seriously, even after we reported it...sent them an original incident report (as student was taken to the hospital as recommended by our local chamber operator). At that time poisoning was not even suspected - dizzyness, coughing, headache, symptoms more similar to embolism, no reason to suspect bad air. They lost this, and denied that I sent them any warning - till I showed them the email marked "URGENT!!!!" to the head of the IRRA, showing that it had indeed been received, as noted in his confirmation of receipt.

Our team officially quit after we forced the owner to produce records, he was unable to provide anything. We reported it immediately to PADI and WCB. I used to be so pro PADI, but this experience has made me view a lot of things differently.

We used to think that too, that PADI enforced this - but in Canada, air analysis is based on the honor system - we found out that very few of the facilities in our area were current. I highly doubt that this would happen in the US..

The whole fiasco was handled so poorly by PADI, with little or no show of concern on their part for the health and safety of the student, our instructional team, or our legal implications. We were informed NOT to advise students of this incident, even when such knowledge could ensure proper treatment. We had to hear from wCB after a lengthy delay (3 months) about the owner's maintenance and lack of testing. Padi simply refused to assist us even though they knew full well - infuriating, as we could have been treated much sooner. Instead, we agonized for weeks worrying. This also left ample time for the facility to thoroughly clean its system, of course resulting in clean air analysis.

In Canada at least, we were advised by PADI that they do not enforce this - luck of the draw as to whether or not a facility follows this standard. Check the facility standards- its written so that a facility only needs to be able to produce upon request. After threatening to take this public, they have informed us that they will now be reverting back to the previous standard of requiring facilities to submit, but only in January.. We were told the reason that this was not enforced by PADI was that it took too much manpower. WCB informed me that all they could do in our situation was give the owner a warning. When asked what would it take to have this enforced and/or taken more seriously, I was told that it is not viewed to be a real CO poisoning unless the victim dies. Really frustrating when you're a responsible instructor who's terrified for the safety of customers who will unwittingly stumble into a potentially lethal situation.

As of today, the facility is still in operation, as the owner apparently informed WCB that they would be "watching for cars" while the compressor was running. He also informed WCB that he was aware of the danger prior, and that it was store policy to watch for cars to avoid contamination. None of the employees (and I was manager) have ever been informed that the intake was located in the parking lot (he lied to us).
So he's still operating like this, and all it takes is one car idling by the intake...and neither PADI nor WCB has done anything to get this idiot to move the intake and be responsible.

Hence my continued disgust at the blatant attempt to cover butt, rather than act in the interests of public safety. I taught 8 year old kids!! My students depended on me to keep them safe. The whole situation is so bizarre...
 
Wow, this sounds like a horror story all right.

You sais "my career is over for an indeterminate period of time" is this because of impending legal action, or because of continuing health issues?

Sounds like you need to sue his ***
 
cancun mark:
Wow, this sounds like a horror story all right.

You sais "my career is over for an indeterminate period of time" is this because of impending legal action, or because of continuing health issues?

Sounds like you need to sue his ***

yeah - from the little 5* shop of horrors...

It's health - I've got an "athsma-like condition" where I can't breathe - damage to my lungs (there are 3 of us so far with this mystery condition) and damage to my heart...those are the major symptoms that the dr. says no way about..

Unfortunately, can't sue due to workers compensation...but will be testifying for students..at least they'll get some justice. My only recourse is to make such a big fuss about this that things change...
 
This is why I will only fill my bottles (when I finish my OW class) from the cascade system at the volunteer fire department- not only is it cheaper (free for members), but the state fire marshall (at least around here) demands annual testing of the system and it has to be inspected after it is installed.....Any of you out there who are looking for a cheap way to fill your tanks with quality air, might talk to your local VFD and see if they will fill them in exchange for a donation. The money is very much appreciated and will be put to good use as many volunteer departments are strapped for cash.
 
medic_diver45:
This is why I will only fill my bottles (when I finish my OW class) from the cascade system at the volunteer fire department- not only is it cheaper (free for members), but the state fire marshall (at least around here) demands annual testing of the system and it has to be inspected after it is installed.....Any of you out there who are looking for a cheap way to fill your tanks with quality air, might talk to your local VFD and see if they will fill them in exchange for a donation. The money is very much appreciated and will be put to good use as many volunteer departments are strapped for cash.


But when you think about it, Steve - isn't that crazy? That as an instructor you don't even get your tanks filled at a facility? How many more of us are there out there - who are seeing this and not getting anywhere with it? Man, I'd rather give air fill money to a VFD than a negligent owner who dosen't know what the hell he's doing. It drives me nuts that in the OW manual and videos students are instructed that PADI facilities are synonymous with quality air, that has been inspected. How would you know as a student who has a good reputation and who dosen't? Infuriating that buyer beware is next to impossible for new divers..anyway, thanks for your response and input.
 
The Shop I am working with is dead serious about maintaining our 5 star rating and we do our quarterly air test and maintenance as directed. last test showed that our standard air side was equivilant to hydro-carbon free air. That has to say something about the air we are serving up to our customers.
 
Opiniongirl,
Which five star shop of horror is this in Canada that we should be avoiding?

Hope you start feeling better soon.
 
RIDIVER501:
The Shop I am working with is dead serious about maintaining our 5 star rating and we do our quarterly air test and maintenance as directed. last test showed that our standard air side was equivilant to hydro-carbon free air. That has to say something about the air we are serving up to our customers.


Glad to hear it - and definitely NOT saying that this is a universal problem. Only how surprised we were to find out exactly how lax things were for some unscrupulous facilities, especially in Canada. Unfortunately, (and I hope you can see my point here) an accident involving a negligent facility affects the business of the whole industry - including the facilities who DO follow standards. It's totally frustrating - and unfair to the facilities like yours - to have standards that are so important, yet ignored - at least in my area.
 

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