I have been searching for a new computer and have found a couple that are more conservitive that dive tables. It is hard to understand that Padi's tables are that far off as they to are more conservative than they use to be when I first started diving. Can anyone tell me why they are going in this direction and what computers are more liberal. I have a Orca Phenox that I purchased new and it is hard for me to give up when I will be sitting on the line while they drink my beer.:11: I am considering a new hoseless oceanic from Scubatoys but my LDS is trying to sell me on a Suunto Vytec. I already dive with a stinger also but would like to have a newer Main computer. I just purchased a used Uwatec for my daughter that was exchanged for a new one from Uwatec on the recall. But it to is to conservative for me. Please give some guideance.