Comparision of 2nd Stages: Apeks XTX100 vs Apeks XTX100 Status
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It shows Hi, Lo or Ok for the IP, and SVC (service due)
You will need a 5mm allen key to adjust the breathing resistance on XTX-40 while there is an adjusting screw on XTX50, 100 and 200.
If you remove all those "gadgets" inside the Status. Would it still behave like an normal FST(XTX-100 1st stage)? Probably only Apeks can answer that. If the answer is YES then I will buy the Status as it is cheaper. BTW, by removing(modify) the reg, would it violate the selling terms?
If you remove all those "gadgets" inside the Status. Would it still behave like an normal FST(XTX-100 1st stage)? Probably only Apeks can answer that. If the answer is YES then I will buy the Status as it is cheaper. BTW, by removing(modify) the reg, would it violate the selling terms?
The electronic module takes the place of the hydrostatic transmitter, which transfers the ambient water pressure to the diaphragm - if you remove it, it will affect the operation of the regulator. I don't know why you'd go to the trouble of removing it anyway, just ignore the display. If you must remove something, take the battery out. Yes, it could affect the warranty
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The second stages are great. They are the same ones that come with non-Status (old-style) first stages.
I realize that divinwolf has no intention of keeping the Status first stage that comes with his reg package. Frankly, I don't blame him. I wouldn't want a Status first stage because it would complicate DIY servicing.
If you look at the exploded parts diagram for a Status first stage, you'll see that there are two o-rings (#AP7520, #AP7502), a CR2025 battery, and a diaphragm ring (#AP7501) which should be replaced during an overhaul. Unfortunately, these parts are not included in the standard Apeks first stage overhaul kit (#AP0241).
A DIYer would have a tough time sourcing the diaphragm ring (#AP7501). I haven't seen such Apeks Status overhaul kits being sold on Ebay or by the "usual" online retailers. I suppose a motivated individual could fashion his own by punching out a hole of the right size in the diaphragm (#AP1478) that comes with the standard overhaul kit, but that's more work than I want to do.
FWIW, you can't just remove the electronic guts of the Status and then service the reg with the standard Apeks first stage kit -- the Status first stage uses a larger diaphragm clamp (#AP7507) which accommodates the Status electronic parts. You could simply leave out the battery...but then you'd still have to change out the parts I indicated previously. Too much trouble!
One of the reasons that I purchased Apeks regs in the first place was because they are super-easy to DIY service. In my hands, the Status feature does not provide any true benefit, since I end up checking the i.p. of my first stages regularly by hand with a separate i.p. gauge anyway. Reading a HI/LO/OK signal isn't good enough for me. I want to know what the "exact" i.p. is. This gives me a better handle on whether the i.p. is creeping up over time (but still within normal limits).
I realize that divinwolf has no intention of keeping the Status first stage that comes with his reg package. Frankly, I don't blame him. I wouldn't want a Status first stage because it would complicate DIY servicing.
If you look at the exploded parts diagram for a Status first stage, you'll see that there are two o-rings (#AP7520, #AP7502), a CR2025 battery, and a diaphragm ring (#AP7501) which should be replaced during an overhaul. Unfortunately, these parts are not included in the standard Apeks first stage overhaul kit (#AP0241).
A DIYer would have a tough time sourcing the diaphragm ring (#AP7501). I haven't seen such Apeks Status overhaul kits being sold on Ebay or by the "usual" online retailers. I suppose a motivated individual could fashion his own by punching out a hole of the right size in the diaphragm (#AP1478) that comes with the standard overhaul kit, but that's more work than I want to do.
FWIW, you can't just remove the electronic guts of the Status and then service the reg with the standard Apeks first stage kit -- the Status first stage uses a larger diaphragm clamp (#AP7507) which accommodates the Status electronic parts. You could simply leave out the battery...but then you'd still have to change out the parts I indicated previously. Too much trouble!
One of the reasons that I purchased Apeks regs in the first place was because they are super-easy to DIY service. In my hands, the Status feature does not provide any true benefit, since I end up checking the i.p. of my first stages regularly by hand with a separate i.p. gauge anyway. Reading a HI/LO/OK signal isn't good enough for me. I want to know what the "exact" i.p. is. This gives me a better handle on whether the i.p. is creeping up over time (but still within normal limits).
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