Cavern diver certification

[LiteHedded]

dead idiots in our caverns makes us look bad. mexico is best for you

 

[Scott L]

I poked around in December, lived to tell the tail and planning to return in September.

That is spelled tale.

 

[knowone]

Huh? Your post is cryptic. Please tell me that you are not advocating that divers do not need proper training to dive in a cavern or cave.

Wouldn't even dream of a suggestion like that for others.

All folks must be certified by cave specific agencies, pass/fail, by
qualified cave divers, through whichever instructorial process applies.

But now that you bring it up, cave diving is completely, over regulated
contributed to, by agencies that are really only acquiescing, to peoples
whims by having limited fibre in creating a standard that permits many
unqualified to dive folks to dive.

In simplified terms, you wouldn't use padi for cave, even if it was free.

Even if Exley was the instructor.

Oh yeah, what happened to him, and all the others

Was it over experience, over training, death by diving

 

[Phreatic Fanatic]

Looks Like we have a tie for today's most ignorant posts:

I poked around in December, lived to tell the tail and planning to return in September.

......
But now that you bring it up, cave diving is completely, over regulated
contributed to, by agencies that are really only acquiescing, to peoples
whims by having limited fibre in creating a standard that permits many
unqualified to dive folks to dive.

In simplified terms, you wouldn't use padi for cave, even if it was free.

Even if Exley was the instructor.

Oh yeah, what happened to him, and all the others

Was it over experience, over training, death by diving

 

[Scott L]

+1...

 

[PfcAJ]

If the only thing you want to do is poke around in the cavern zone, you don't need a cavern certification

Of course! What could POSSIBLY go wrong diving in caves!?

Wait wait....how many OW divers have died in caves? How many OW instructors? I'm glad you've got it all figured out.

 

[Trace Malinowski]

Proper training isn't just about protecting the overhead diver from the environment, but protecting the environment from the diver.

The trim position, buoyancy skills, propulsion techniques, team protocols, emergency procedures and knowledge of correct gas management needed to keep you and the environment safe can be gained from instructors from a wide variety of agencies. Classes such as GUE Fundamentals and UTD Essentials are often best bets for learning such techniques from an instructor with high standards outside the cavern/cave environment. Both these agencies subscribe to a rigid philosophy that may not appeal to every diver. Cave instructors and cave divers who teach various intro to tech programs with other agencies are also equally excellent and often allow their students more flexibility when it comes to procedures and equipment for overhead diving.

An instructor who cares as much about your safety as he or she does about protecting caverns and caves will you give you the best information to safely engage in overhead diving.

Interview instructors and pick the one with the enthusiasm, experience, knowledge, teaching style and personality you feel might be the most helpful to you. In the end, it's not about the agency, it's about the cave.

 

[ianr33]

If the only thing you want to do is poke around in the cavern zone, you don't need a cavern certification

I'm guessing that's not what your GUE instructor said?

 

[Fionab]

Looks Like we have a tie for today's most ignorant posts:

Your opinion. Would you like to explain your comment.

 

[Phreatic Fanatic]

Your opinion. Would you like to explain your comment.

In a forum where the OP is seeking advice about obtaining training for safely diving in a cavern, you feel the need to post that training is not necessary and as proof, you offer your cavalier retort which implies that you managed to survive such activity without training.

I knew divers with attitudes similar to yours. They are dead now.