Can you get watertight backpacks for snorkeling?

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For the wetsuit.... you really need to decide what thickness (mm) you need.

Decathlon.co.uk
(45 quid for a 1 piece 2mm tropical one-piece Tribord wetsuit)
(50 quid for a 1 piece 3mm steamer Tribord wetsuit)
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he is going need something a lot thicker than 2 or 3mm for the UK :eek:

At least a 7mm for winter. As for the backpack I certainly wouldn't want to be dragging one round while snorkelling. You could leave your clothes in a dry bag on the beach and get one of the smaller items from Aquapac for your valuables.

For safety reasons I would split your team into 2's, one pair snorkel while the other pair stay on the beach/shore.
 
There is lots of very detailed information on there but it does get very confusing. It is to do with surfing whereas I am looking for snorkeling. It does mention a bit about diving.

Yes, it does get most confusing. Fifty years ago, a major selling point of suits, whether wet or dry, was their versatility. I have a Lillywhites catalogue from the early 1960s featuring a dry suit - back then just a thin valveless coverall designed to keep water out - which was "designed not only for diving but also for swimming, water-skiing, yachting and even fishing, where only the trousers are worn". The manufacturer's catalogue lists this clientèle too, adding dinghy sailors and canoeists to the list of potential users.

Nowadays we are in the age of the specialist. A wet or dry suit is no longer billed as a multipurpose accessory for a variety of water sports, even though the differences between surfers' suits, swimmers' suits, scuba-divers' suits, freedivers' suits and canoeists' suits must often be subtle at best to a layman's mind. The pressure to design and market a specialist exposure suit for each aquatic pursuit has undoubtedly come from single-discipline watersportmen and watersportswomen themselves, people who are passionate about one water sport only. However, the trend towards specialisation has also been positively encouraged by the water sports equipment industry, which stands to benefit financially if a modern customer who surfs and scuba-dives purchases two exposure suits, one for surfing and another for scuba diving, while his parents or grandparents, half a century ago and with less money to spend, would have surfed and scuba-dived wearing the same exposure suit.

Choosing a wetsuit thickness is about balancing temperature and manoeuvrability. The thicker the material, the warmer you will be, but at the expense of your limbs' freedom to move in the water. You will find it easier to swim in a thinner wetsuit, but you will be colder. Aim for a "Goldilocks" equilibrium which is neither too hot nor too cold. How to achieve this is trial and error. One person may find thick wetsuits still too cold, another may overheat in the same garment.

Much more important is fit, because the idea of a wetsuit is to admit as little water as possible and for that stagnant water to be warmed up by the wearer's body to a comfortable temperature. If a wetsuit is a slack fit, at least a trickle of cold water will flow continuously through the suit as the wearer swims, chilling him or her. Sometimes getting a close enough fit means ordering a custom suit. We're all differently sized and getting a well-fitting wetsuit doesn't always come cheap.

I have flippers but the style I have I don't know what you call them, there the ones which you just slip on. Not the ones where you tie the strap. Does this mean I can't use wetsuit boots to keep my feet warm? There is always some room, like a 1 or 2 mm space for my ankle and toes but still it's a nice tight fit, and they don't come off when in the water.

The great thing about snorkelling is that just about any kind of fins will do, no matter what the watersports specialists claim. When I visited Southern California's La Jolla Cove, a snorkellers' Mecca, a few years ago, the snorkellers I saw wore full-foot rubber fins, open-heel composite fins, fixed-heel surfer-style fins, freedivers' long-bladed fins and Force Fins. The one thing they all had in common was their enjoyment of snorkelling, however they were shod. What does matter when it comes to fins is fit. Fin pockets come in a range of foot lengths, widths and arch heights, so it's important to try fins on, with any socks or bootees, before completing the purchase. Your own choice of full-foot fins for snorkelling in the UK is perfectly justified, the more so because I happily snorkel in the cold North Sea off the Northumberland coast with traditional all-rubber full-foot fins over my vintage drysuit's footed pants. I don't like open-heel fins and I don't understand why some people think that full-foot fins only belong in tropical resorts. Dare to be different.
 
he is going need something a lot thicker than 2 or 3mm for the UK :eek:

At least a 7mm for winter. As for the backpack I certainly wouldn't want to be dragging one round while snorkelling. You could leave your clothes in a dry bag on the beach and get one of the smaller items from Aquapac for your valuables.

For safety reasons I would split your team into 2's, one pair snorkel while the other pair stay on the beach/shore.

Thanks for making mention about Aquapac. I looked into them and they have a submersible dry pack 25 liter capacity which seems great for my snorkeling adventures. But I guess 25 liter isn't enough, to take 4 towels, 4 sandals, 4 watches, 4 t-shirts, 4 shorts, 4 boxers. Would I need 30, 35 or even 55 liters? lugging 55 liters on your back while snorkeling seems like a lot of weight. Even 30 that would be 15 2l bottles of water.

On the aquapac website it says the backpack has 25 liters capacity. It seems to me that it's 25 liters as a whole, but in the dry area of the pack there's much less room to keep things dry. I wonder if you can confirm this?

I am looking for a back where the whole capacity can be submerged and all the contents inside stay completely dry.

Also, I looked into the aquapac and the current model which is the 788 that sells direct from them for £65 but other retailers have the older model the Aquapac 770 25 liter noatak waterproof backpack for £30.50 delivered. What's the difference between this one and the new model? Is the 770 a good buy?

I would really like to hear your opinion on this

much appreciated

Many thanks in advance
 
he is going need something a lot thicker than 2 or 3mm for the UK :eek:

At least a 7mm for winter. As for the backpack I certainly wouldn't want to be dragging one round while snorkelling. You could leave your clothes in a dry bag on the beach and get one of the smaller items from Aquapac for your valuables.

For safety reasons I would split your team into 2's, one pair snorkel while the other pair stay on the beach/shore.

Many thanks for your reply

I am from the UK but would be using the wetsuit in Spain only in the seasons I suggested. From 5 degrees Celsius and upwards. So what mm suit would be best?
 
Yes, it does get most confusing. Fifty years ago, a major selling point of suits, whether wet or dry, was their versatility. I have a Lillywhites catalogue from the early 1960s featuring a dry suit - back then just a thin valveless coverall designed to keep water out - which was "designed not only for diving but also for swimming, water-skiing, yachting and even fishing, where only the trousers are worn". The manufacturer's catalogue lists this clientèle too, adding dinghy sailors and canoeists to the list of potential users.

Nowadays we are in the age of the specialist. A wet or dry suit is no longer billed as a multipurpose accessory for a variety of water sports, even though the differences between surfers' suits, swimmers' suits, scuba-divers' suits, freedivers' suits and canoeists' suits must often be subtle at best to a layman's mind. The pressure to design and market a specialist exposure suit for each aquatic pursuit has undoubtedly come from single-discipline watersportmen and watersportswomen themselves, people who are passionate about one water sport only. However, the trend towards specialisation has also been positively encouraged by the water sports equipment industry, which stands to benefit financially if a modern customer who surfs and scuba-dives purchases two exposure suits, one for surfing and another for scuba diving, while his parents or grandparents, half a century ago and with less money to spend, would have surfed and scuba-dived wearing the same exposure suit.

Choosing a wetsuit thickness is about balancing temperature and manoeuvrability. The thicker the material, the warmer you will be, but at the expense of your limbs' freedom to move in the water. You will find it easier to swim in a thinner wetsuit, but you will be colder. Aim for a "Goldilocks" equilibrium which is neither too hot nor too cold. How to achieve this is trial and error. One person may find thick wetsuits still too cold, another may overheat in the same garment.

Much more important is fit, because the idea of a wetsuit is to admit as little water as possible and for that stagnant water to be warmed up by the wearer's body to a comfortable temperature. If a wetsuit is a slack fit, at least a trickle of cold water will flow continuously through the suit as the wearer swims, chilling him or her. Sometimes getting a close enough fit means ordering a custom suit. We're all differently sized and getting a well-fitting wetsuit doesn't always come cheap.



The great thing about snorkelling is that just about any kind of fins will do, no matter what the watersports specialists claim. When I visited Southern California's La Jolla Cove, a snorkellers' Mecca, a few years ago, the snorkellers I saw wore full-foot rubber fins, open-heel composite fins, fixed-heel surfer-style fins, freedivers' long-bladed fins and Force Fins. The one thing they all had in common was their enjoyment of snorkelling, however they were shod. What does matter when it comes to fins is fit. Fin pockets come in a range of foot lengths, widths and arch heights, so it's important to try fins on, with any socks or bootees, before completing the purchase. Your own choice of full-foot fins for snorkelling in the UK is perfectly justified, the more so because I happily snorkel in the cold North Sea off the Northumberland coast with traditional all-rubber full-foot fins over my vintage drysuit's footed pants. I don't like open-heel fins and I don't understand why some people think that full-foot fins only belong in tropical resorts. Dare to be different.

Many thanks for your reply

Lots of great detailed information you have offered me. so I can use some 1mm or 2mm wetsuit socks with my full foot fins. As long as I have some room in the fins for them. But your saying one suit that can do both types of water sports wouldn't work well. I will have to look into all this.

Many thanks again
 
But your saying one suit that can do both types of water sports wouldn't work well. I will have to look into all this.

No, I'm saying that some people nowadays who specialise in one water sport, whether customers or retailers, CLAIM that only a specialist suit will do when participating in that particular water sport, and CLAIM that such specialist suits might be unsuitable for another water sport. To be frank, I'm very sceptical about such claims and I wonder how anybody of modest means who does a range of water sports could afford to have a different exposure suit for every water sport they participate in.

Just focus on locating a full wetsuit, any full wetsuit, that matches your body proportions and your budget. As for the thickness of the material, just remember that there's a balance to be maintained between warmth and manoeuvrability.
 
I am really struggling to suggest a bag which will be suitable for your requirements. Apart from a small Aquapac type product to keep your valuables in or a dry bag like this Scubapro Large Dry Sack by Scubapro.

Why do you need something big enough for all 4 of you ? Wouldn't it be better to have smaller bags for each of you. I also can't see why you want something which will submerge, don't know how you are going to dive down with what in effect will be a buoyancy aid on.

If you were to look at a brightly coloured dry bag it could be used as a surface marker which would make you visible to other water users.

Will there be boat traffic in the area you are using ?

As for a wetsuit in 5 degree water - braver man than I :D
 
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