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You very well might have pockets of air trapped in the wetsuit, the hood, etc. There is a lot of potential for that when you are wearing multiple layers. And are you absolutely sure that you are getting all of the air dumped out of your BC?

It sounds as though you had no trouble with being unable to hold your depth when you made your ascent, so I don't think that you are underweighted.
 
42#?? You are doing something vastly wrong. And 16 pounds with a 3mm suit? Something going on there too..
 
16lbs with a 3mm? 42 pounds with a 7mm two-piece?
Holy CRAP. :11: :11:
 
It would have helped if I'd mentioned that I'm 6'5" and 255 lb. Sorry for leaving out reasonably critical info.

I hadn't thought about air trapped in the suit, and it's a new wetsuit so maybe it's a little more bouyant now than it will be after a few dives with it.

Yes, I really did dive tropical with 16 lb and a 3mm jumpsuit. It seemed fine, but I am a completely ignorant novice, so what I think may not be relevant at this point.
 
Make sure your feet are still, e.g. cross your ankles. Sometimes people are kicking themselves up without even realising it. Then it becomes: what's the maximum amount of weight you can support on the surface.
 
Hinalo:
It would have helped if I'd mentioned that I'm 6'5" and 255 lb. Sorry for leaving out reasonably critical info.
No one your size should need anywhere close to the amount of weight you mentioned. :11:
In all seriousness, how do you fit 42lbs on a weight belt, much less walk with it...
 
It's okay; everybody carries more weight than they need when they're new. My first tropical trip, I took 14 lbs into the water with me. Now I dive with six -- same wetsuit.

There are a lot of reasons for difficulties descending with new divers, and most of them aren't being underweighted. First off, there is the coordination of your breath. One of the things Bob taught me was that, when you start to empty your BC on the surface, start to INHALE. Everybody thinks they should EXHALE at that point, but if you do, when your head goes underwater, you're ready to inhale, and that stops your descent. If you inhale on the surface, then, as your head goes underwater, you do a forced exhalation, empty your lungs completely, and you'll continue down.

Secondly, most people are finning as they move down into the water, and with your fins beneath you, you are driven back toward the surface. There are a bunch of reasons why you fin, but one of the most common is that you're tending to go over on your back, and you're kicking to stop that. Happily, the same solution fixes both -- Cross your ankles with your knees bent. Crossing your ankles keeps you from finning, and bending your knees puts the blades of your fins behind you where they will catch the water as you sink, therefore pushing your feet up and your chest down, putting you into a nice horizontal position in which to descend.

Yes, you can trap air in the wing and in the suit, and you have to learn to vent both, but ineffective breathing and kicking are much bigger reasons for not sinking.

Good luck getting it sorted out -- When you learn to descend properly, you'll find you can shed weight like crazy.
 
TSandM:
First off, there is the coordination of your breath. One of the things Bob taught me was that, when you start to empty your BC on the surface, start to INHALE. Everybody thinks they should EXHALE at that point, but if you do, when your head goes underwater, you're ready to inhale, and that stops your descent.
I suppose we all have different methods.
I do the "exhale while dumping air" method. Usually I dump a good portion of my BC, enough that I'm not going to rise up if I breathe.
Then again I usually just don't inhale for a few moment upon submerging as I descend a few feet.

Never had any problems, but YMMV. :)
 
SparticleBrane:
No one your size should need anywhere close to the amount of weight you mentioned. :11:
In all seriousness, how do you fit 42lbs on a weight belt, much less walk with it...

I hear that. Walking out of the water and up the stairs after the second dive was a workout. I remember being glad that I do leg presses at the gym.

Thanks for the suggestions. Will keep at it.
 
SparticleBrane:
No one your size should need anywhere close to the amount of weight you mentioned. :11:
In all seriousness, how do you fit 42lbs on a weight belt, much less walk with it...

Then again some of us actually "need" that much lead :) I for example am neutral with a 14# belt in a t-shirt when snorkeling ... move me into a Farmer John and I'd be getting close to 40# (btw - if I was wearing a jacket BC that had lots of padding it would be even more).

More than likely weight will go down with experience, but we're not all negative to begin with - LOL

Aloha, Tim
 

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