tilikum
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This is why I like shore diving so much, you don't have to answer to a buddy or a captain.
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drrich2
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I went ahead & started that poll at What Kind Of Insta-buddy Experience Do You Prefer? so as not to derail this thread too badly.
I see your point, but what % of the time is it practiced that way? And what happens if what the agencies push at the basic level is much different from what a substantial portion of the diving public wants? (Getting a sense of what some want led to that poll).
That does sound embarrassing. On the other hand, a couple of questions (and I'll assume mainstream Caribbean or maybe Florida Keys rec. diving, with a lot of tourists, since the California dive scene is different from what many divers are used to in terms of independence)...
1.) I wonder what % of divers actually surface to institute a search after loss of buddy for 1 minute plus? This answer would need to be separate for an independent buddy pair vs. a group following a guide. I'm not asking what they should do, but what they really do.
2.) Let's say every diver in the Caribbean region who experienced buddy separation over 1 minute surfaced, signaled the boat & tried to institute a lost buddy search. How much disruption in daily operations would this cause? In other words, is this something the industry would really want to see happen (as opposed to claiming they do)?
There are no specific answers to be had, but perhaps someone cares to venture a hunch as to roughly how these things work real world?
Richard.
I see your point, but what % of the time is it practiced that way? And what happens if what the agencies push at the basic level is much different from what a substantial portion of the diving public wants? (Getting a sense of what some want led to that poll).
That does sound embarrassing. On the other hand, a couple of questions (and I'll assume mainstream Caribbean or maybe Florida Keys rec. diving, with a lot of tourists, since the California dive scene is different from what many divers are used to in terms of independence)...
1.) I wonder what % of divers actually surface to institute a search after loss of buddy for 1 minute plus? This answer would need to be separate for an independent buddy pair vs. a group following a guide. I'm not asking what they should do, but what they really do.
2.) Let's say every diver in the Caribbean region who experienced buddy separation over 1 minute surfaced, signaled the boat & tried to institute a lost buddy search. How much disruption in daily operations would this cause? In other words, is this something the industry would really want to see happen (as opposed to claiming they do)?
There are no specific answers to be had, but perhaps someone cares to venture a hunch as to roughly how these things work real world?
Richard.
Bob DBF
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1. If I am buddy diving I do. In a group, if no buddy's are assigned, I'll be the problem since I'm usually a solo diver.
2. It would be interesting to find out. One of problems with how divers act is the difference between what they are taught, and how operators disregard those same principals.
Bob
2. It would be interesting to find out. One of problems with how divers act is the difference between what they are taught, and how operators disregard those same principals.
Bob
Not sure why Chuck would be pissed. Allowing Jack to dive again and not questioning his decision making during the dive seems to be consistent with the crew's decision to bring a group of novice divers to the oil rigs. The worst part of this story is that the divers didn't have the perspective to understand what they were getting into, that the oil rigs are definitely not for "trust me" dives.
The handful of times I've been to the rigs, the group has been told well in advance "this dive is only for advanced divers; if you're not sure whether or not you qualify... you don't."
Unfortunately the "cool" factor of diving at the rigs tends to override common sense.
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