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I have never done any underwater photography. I am heading to Asia for a very long holiday and plan to do ALOT of diving. I would like to buy a basic but good camera/housing setup. I have been sugguested the Canon G12. I am not sure where to go from there with reguards to housing and strobes etc. Any help will be appreciated as I would hate to get all the way out there and find I have bought the wrong stuff! Thanx in advance.
 
Get a used set for starters, like the Sealife kit for sale @ 700$, that I'm hoping to buy.
See http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/cl...sealife-dc1000-elite-kit-700-shipped-obo.html


Not knowing your level of comfort with cameras in general - why not simply use a GoPro, use the video mode only, and capture frames off the 720p video for pictures?
On land I'm a pro photographer, UW quite the beginner.

I've started small, with smaller kits, less expensive. Learning to dive & learning to take UW pics do NOT go hand-in-hand.

Consider video only! 720p or 1080p.
A single frame would be 1280x720 pixels, that is like a 2 mega-pixel picture. With today's great printers, a 4x6 print won't look bad at all.
- 1080p = you get more pixels, but less FPS (frames per second) the current standard is 24. That is *very* slow.
- 720p = less pixels, but still 4x better than a "standard" video from 1995, and FPS you'll get 30 (good) or 60 (best).

Expect that below 15 feet everything will go blue on you, that's why strobes are so big and cost more than the camera itself. Many places in Asia have outstanding shallow reefs with plenty of things to take pictures of.

Used kit @700$, a fully-equiped GoPro that can go *everywhere* you go 700$

- or -

a fully equipped point-and-shoot like the Canon G12, is about 700$ with housing. Strobes can cost 500$ - 1200$ each, plus accessories.
Without strobes, don't expect below 15 feet on a sunny day to look good, unless you're up-close, like within 1 foot, with the built-in flash.

Below 15 feet your basic point-and-shoot + housing is great only for macro shoots. Unless, you take a "profile" pic, say of a shark swimming above you, between you & the sun, that will look nice.

If money is no object - find a dive shop that sells UW cameras, lights, strobes, accessories. Be prepared to spend over 2k$ for entry-level gear that will take awesome pictures in the 2 feet - 15 feet range.

Above 15 feet, say in the first 5-10 feet, on a sunny day, pictures without a strobe will look great, don't use the built-in flash, as that will only reflect off of bubbles and sediment.
 
I can recommend the Sea and Sea YS-01 as a good, compact, and relatively inexpensive strobe. I use a pair of them with a Canon s90/s95 and they work well. I have some examples of photos taken with this setup on the website in my signature.


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This is rare to find such a kit used - the pics are so great - not many people want to upgrade to 14 mega-pixels from 8mp or 10mp.

One thing I've done with 720p pic grabs, is put two of them inside a single JPG for 4x6 print. Each pic being 4x3. So you can "assemble" two views of the same subject, and software is free if you use Paint.Net, or GIMP. I prefer Paint.Net for beginners.

I find it easier to use Apple Quicktime to capture frames as pictures, free version.


I can recommend the Sea and Sea YS-01 as a good, compact, and relatively inexpensive strobe. I use a pair of them with a Canon s90/s95 and they work well. I have some examples of photos taken with this setup on the website in my signature.


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You might want to consider a camera like the SeaLife DC1200 or DC1400. It is designed to make underwater photography easier with preset modes, although probably a bit pricey considering you mention "basic" camera.

I am currently using an old Sony DSC-12 with a Sony housing, and have used it since I first got into diving, but looking to upgrade. I have considered the DC1400, but decided that I am going to go all out with photography so trying to save up some cash :)
 
G12, S95, XZ-1 is nice camera, but I personally prefer XZ-1. good quality housing w/ M67 port at reasonable cost. My younger daughter use XZ-1 with D2000 - she's quite happy and able to get decent pictures - check the link below, though I'm not sure if her blog still active since we're not able to access since we move here. Blogspot is banned here.The macro shots on her sister blog (sure her blog is okay) are also taken with XZ-1 w/ D2000. You canb get S2000 which is very compact or YS-02 if you want to save at least USD 150 - but no STTL on YS-02 which is not big issue at all.In fact, we always use manual mode all the time.
 
I would stick with Canon's compact line. It is a little basic, but I've heard good thing about the S95. If you are looking to learn fast, I have a G12 and love it. The only reason I don't use it anymore is I have since upgraded to a T1i to drag with me underwater instead.

A bunch of companies have recently come out with cameras designed specifically for underwater use, but I have yet to be impressed with the image quality from these. The companies seem more focused on keeping the water out of their cameras (which is easy) than establishing good optics. Check out the camera and take a few pictures before you buy it. If you aren't impressed immediately, go with something else.
 
The Panasonic point-and-shoots for UW, without a case can go 20m (the newer model). The one I killed went to 10m.

I killed it by having it out in the sun for half an hour, metal expanded and salty-water (from my salt-water pool) seeped in. However, I brought it with me down South, and it took great pictures UW in the 0-10 feet range, sunny, and flash disabled.

Videos were more fun however.
 
It really all depends on a) your budget and b) your expectations.

You can get a very basic cheap UW camera that will go as deep as you want (sealife mini) but leaves you with almost no control and no lighting, and the pictures will reflect this. And it only goes up from there... i'd say the priorities are this:
1. the camera (p&s , slr , manual controls , raw? )
2. the housing
3. strobe(s) + tray/arm + connections
4. lenses

1&2 are must haves to get even get in the water.
3. drastically improves pictures.
4. specializes what you can do (wide angle , macro , etc)
 

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