BCs and Photography

[blacknet]

Big-t-2538 once bubbled...


Dude...be serious....parked on the bottom....why? Give me 1 good reason to be 'parked'...BTW, what is your buddy doing while you're parked?

Sure,

Please detail for me the finer points of capturing pistognathus macrognathus, Ogilbia cayorum, Emblemariopsis signifera or Acanthemblemaria chaplini. I wish to get 1:1 full frame macro shots. Please tell me how to accomplish this with out parking.

BTW the buddy is about 10 feet away doing the same thing or watching me from the dive deck.

Ed

 

[Big-t-2538]

I guess my followup would be what you consider parked....

I envison parked being in some way laying or kneeling on the bottom or the coral or whatever.

 

[blacknet]

Big-t-2538 once bubbled...
I guess my followup would be what you consider parked....

I envison parked being in some way laying or kneeling on the bottom or the coral or whatever.

Hello,

Perhaps I should have been more clear. By 'parking' one finds a spot where no damage will be done to him/her self or the enviroment. One scouts out the enterence to the burrow and waits, it may take 5 mins it may take 30 mins but the creature will come out to investigate and give you perfect opertunities for that cover shot. The photographer puts themselves into place for the golden moment and has the timing, distance and angle down so the only thing left is to take the photo.

Yes I will admit alot of photographers doesn't follow this code but this is ecologicaly sound and less stressful on the marine life. One also comes to enjoy the serenity of the enviroment.

The most critical issues to deal with is a) know your subject b) know your enviroment c) know yourself. Each one can be acomplished by a new diver if using the right techniques and skill developments.

Ed

 

[lragsac]

roakey once bubbled...
Please, please, shelve your plans for the housing until you have at least 100 dives.
Roak

I don't know what the magic number of dives is, but Roak has got a point here. Taking up more serious u/w photography involves task loading. This is not something you want to do until you are completely comfortable with your diving and really proficient with your skills (gas management, buoyancy, etc.). On the question of BC's I have no argument with the appropriateness of a b/p and wing setup, as I dive one as well. Being very streamlined does make getting closer to the bottom w/o stirring things up and getting caught on things much easier. No one mentioned fins, though. When you *do* take up photography the type of fins you dive makes a big difference. Split fins will not allow you the precise control and hovering capability that are essential for u/w photography.

 

[roakey]

blacknet once bubbled...
Please detail for me the finer points of capturing pistognathus macrognathus, Ogilbia cayorum, Emblemariopsis signifera or Acanthemblemaria chaplini.

When people start throwing big words around instead of presenting a rational argument, it leaves no doubt that you should start ignoring them. I kneel before your mastery of Latin, Ed.

Do required skills somehow change in the vicinity of these creatures? Perhaps they somehow influence the laws of physics so you have to dive differently around them? Heaven, oh, and I guess Ed only knows.

Roak

 

[blacknet]

roakey once bubbled...

When people start throwing big words around instead of presenting a rational argument, it leves no doubt that you should start ignoring them. I kneel before your mastery of Latin, Ed.

Do required skills somehow change in the vicinity of these creatures? Perhaps they somehow influence the laws of physics so you have to dive differently around them? Heaven, oh, and I guess Ed only knows.

Roak

Toakey,

I think you should read what I wrote and not sling insults and cop the threatening stance, you above all should not take a stance like this as it makes moderators on scubaboard and the board itself look bad.

Having said that I will point you to my last post when I detailed 'parking'. Sarcasm will get you no where in life.

These named species are bottom dwelling fish that is rare or uncommon and doesn't like the limelight. In order to get good shots you have to use techniques like I mentioned.

Perhaps this was the wrong forum to post a photography related question to, seeing the number of hungry wolves in this section. Also didn't we stray from the topic onto some irrelevant tanget.

Ed

 

[jwnca]

roakey,

Though you obviously have passionate feels, you more or less have gotten completely off topic and have given me the impression of being a grouch.

 

[roakey]

jwnca once bubbled...
Though you obviously have passionate feels, you more or less have gotten completely off topic and have given me the impression of being a grouch.

Yes, I've been grouchy with Ed for a long time in this file. He has a long history of posting studies that don't apply to the discussion, quoting ancient studies as current and has made several promises to post stuff that he's never followed through on (Where's that 1960s Helium article you promised us, Ed?). He's a veritable expert at blowing smoke; his content-free-but-trying-to-impress post with long latin names being the latest example of his work.

Ed, make the distinction: There's roakey the moderator and roakey the individual contributor. This is the individual contributor talking.

Roak

 

[Big-t-2538]

blacknet once bubbled...

Yes I will admit alot of photographers doesn't follow this code but this is ecologicaly sound and less stressful on the marine life. One also comes to enjoy the serenity of the enviroment.

O.K...that's more what I was hoping to see...the only problem is what you have pointed out here...there are a lot of "photographers" who I have seen pictures of tearing up coral...or even worse, standing on it, posing for one of those cover shots. Also the same dudes who crash down on the coral or cram themselves into a little crevas and break stuff off with their tanks and never even know it.

At any rate, I still disagree with using the bottom as a platform, but that's your decision....you are more of a marine photo dude than I ever will be, and you do what you have to do to get the shot. So long as you're not tearing stuff up I don;t mind....but when I hear the word "park" it justs sets off flags in my mind.

 

[blacknet]

roakey once bubbled...

Yes, I've been grouchy with Ed for a long time in this file. He has a long history of posting studies that don't apply to the discussion, quoting ancient studies as current and has made several promises to post stuff that he's never followed through on (Where's that 1960s Helium article you promised us, Ed?). He's a veritable expert at blowing smoke; his content-free-but-trying-to-impress post with long latin names being the latest example of his work.

Ed, make the distinction: There's roakey the moderator and roakey the individual contributor. This is the individual contributor talking.

Roak

Roakey,

When it comes to photography I know what i'm talking about, I speak from experience that is deeper and richer than most others. I may not be up on my bc vs bp/wings bs setup but photography I do know. This is no smoke, no mirrors, no bs.

If you have a problem with me then perhaps you should address it in a private message.

Ed