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Hi, I will be going to Aruba next week, and in 10 years of cold water northeast US diving this will be only my second warm water diving oppotrunity...so I am interested in making the most of it.
I have read many different reivews on Dive Aruba, Pelican and Red Sail, all seem to have advantages and disadvantages depending upon with whom you speak. All seem to have similarly priced packages.
I am staying at Rennisance Aruba Marina Tower, so obviously Red Sail is the most convenient location and has the least time (if any) lost on travel to/from site. They also seem to have the most extensive schedule (as far as number of trips per day), and apparently offer shore diving directly from Rennisance Island. Both Pelican and Red Sail appear to offer a photography service where you can have your dive photographed (something I am interested in) and Red Sail offers camera rental.
Some of my concerns with Red Sail and Pelican are:
Cattle-cart diving and getting lost in the
crowd.....large boats, each trip filled to
capacity, up to 24 divers at one time, all going
to the same site.
Dives are hard to book on a last minute (less than
24 hours) basis due to the number of people
Red Sail and Pelican try to accommodate.
Some have said Red Sail has a more corporate
feel, not so much personal service and often
caters to the cruise ship crowd.
Dive limits are based on when first diver reached
NDL or runs out of air...all divers must surface
together...cutting some divers short on bottom
time
There is a push to get divers in the water quickly,
rush the dive and get everyone out of water as
soon as possible in order to make it back to
dock for next load of people.
ALL morning 2-tank dives are to the same
location ..."South Coast"...every day of the
week. So it would seem after you have done
one 2-tank AM dive, not much point in booking
another 2-tank AM dive. Are there different
sites within the "South Coast" site to dive on?
Pelican seems to be a bit away from my hotel
(the furthest of the 3 operators) so I am
concerend I will be spending a bit of time
traveling to and from their dock, in addition to
having an earlier pick-up time from my hotel.
Pelican has the second best schedule as far as
number of trips per day, but it is unclear if they
offere return transportation to my hotel after
the dive.
Pelican is the only one of the 3 operators that offers rental of a 3mm full wetsuit (not shorty) which I have been led to believe is better for abrasion/sting protection. Not sure how much thermal protection I will need since I am used to wearing drysuit with heavy undergarments. Is full 3mm wetsuit over-kill or not a bad idea? What is average bottom temp at deepest dive..say 100ft. I realize this is a loaded question, as each persons tolerance to cold and heat loss is different...I'm not looking to hold anyone to anything here, just a general idea of real water temps (not what the brochures say) and exposure/abrasion/sting protection needs
As for Dive aruba, it seems to be a much smaller operation then either Red Sail or Pelican...owned/operated by one man, Clive Paula. This would leave me to believe it is a more personal experience...however this may also mean Mr Paula must wear all hats and do everything on his own leading to an unintentional lack of service. The Location of his boat appears close to my hotel...supposedly only a 5-10 minute walk. Dives are limited to 7 divers including crew..which I assume is simply Clive. Unfortunately he does not offer photography services or camera rental, and his schedule is pretty limited as far as number of dives per day 1 am and 1 afternoon. The schedule does appear however to be the most diverse as far as dives sites visited.
SO after all that, I was hoping someone with Aruba diving experience might be able to shed some light on all this, confirm or dispute some of my concerns and assessments, and give me some insider insight on these operators and what I might expect from each. Any other helpful tips on Aruba would also be appreciated.
Thanks, I really appreciate your time, my email is:
padi1029@optonline.net
CK
I have read many different reivews on Dive Aruba, Pelican and Red Sail, all seem to have advantages and disadvantages depending upon with whom you speak. All seem to have similarly priced packages.
I am staying at Rennisance Aruba Marina Tower, so obviously Red Sail is the most convenient location and has the least time (if any) lost on travel to/from site. They also seem to have the most extensive schedule (as far as number of trips per day), and apparently offer shore diving directly from Rennisance Island. Both Pelican and Red Sail appear to offer a photography service where you can have your dive photographed (something I am interested in) and Red Sail offers camera rental.
Some of my concerns with Red Sail and Pelican are:
Cattle-cart diving and getting lost in the
crowd.....large boats, each trip filled to
capacity, up to 24 divers at one time, all going
to the same site.
Dives are hard to book on a last minute (less than
24 hours) basis due to the number of people
Red Sail and Pelican try to accommodate.
Some have said Red Sail has a more corporate
feel, not so much personal service and often
caters to the cruise ship crowd.
Dive limits are based on when first diver reached
NDL or runs out of air...all divers must surface
together...cutting some divers short on bottom
time
There is a push to get divers in the water quickly,
rush the dive and get everyone out of water as
soon as possible in order to make it back to
dock for next load of people.
ALL morning 2-tank dives are to the same
location ..."South Coast"...every day of the
week. So it would seem after you have done
one 2-tank AM dive, not much point in booking
another 2-tank AM dive. Are there different
sites within the "South Coast" site to dive on?
Pelican seems to be a bit away from my hotel
(the furthest of the 3 operators) so I am
concerend I will be spending a bit of time
traveling to and from their dock, in addition to
having an earlier pick-up time from my hotel.
Pelican has the second best schedule as far as
number of trips per day, but it is unclear if they
offere return transportation to my hotel after
the dive.
Pelican is the only one of the 3 operators that offers rental of a 3mm full wetsuit (not shorty) which I have been led to believe is better for abrasion/sting protection. Not sure how much thermal protection I will need since I am used to wearing drysuit with heavy undergarments. Is full 3mm wetsuit over-kill or not a bad idea? What is average bottom temp at deepest dive..say 100ft. I realize this is a loaded question, as each persons tolerance to cold and heat loss is different...I'm not looking to hold anyone to anything here, just a general idea of real water temps (not what the brochures say) and exposure/abrasion/sting protection needs
As for Dive aruba, it seems to be a much smaller operation then either Red Sail or Pelican...owned/operated by one man, Clive Paula. This would leave me to believe it is a more personal experience...however this may also mean Mr Paula must wear all hats and do everything on his own leading to an unintentional lack of service. The Location of his boat appears close to my hotel...supposedly only a 5-10 minute walk. Dives are limited to 7 divers including crew..which I assume is simply Clive. Unfortunately he does not offer photography services or camera rental, and his schedule is pretty limited as far as number of dives per day 1 am and 1 afternoon. The schedule does appear however to be the most diverse as far as dives sites visited.
SO after all that, I was hoping someone with Aruba diving experience might be able to shed some light on all this, confirm or dispute some of my concerns and assessments, and give me some insider insight on these operators and what I might expect from each. Any other helpful tips on Aruba would also be appreciated.
Thanks, I really appreciate your time, my email is:
padi1029@optonline.net
CK