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Argon bottle mounting & weight plates.

Discussion in 'Deep Sea Supply' started by BigBubbaJ, Apr 26, 2010.

  1. BigBubbaJ

    BigBubbaJ DIR Practitioner

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    Tobin,

    I just had the need to re-mount my weight plates on my Large SS plate, and found the mounting bolts of the plate weights to be where I like my argon mount. I moved it up one hole, which seems OK, but wanted to know what you recommend. It seems like the cutout is precisely for the argon bungee, but I hadn't needed the extra weight until I switched to some Faber LP108s.

    My only concern with where I have it mounted is that there is not very much room for slippage. I would mount it much lower, but it would be in the way of the pull dump.

    Another option would be the tail weight pouch, but I might need more than 5 to compensate for the swing of the 108s.

    Thoughts?

    Thanks,

    Justin
     

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  2. cool_hardware52

    cool_hardware52 Dive Equipment Manufacturer

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    Justin,

    The DSS weight plates are not intended to be used with doubles. Using the weight plates impacts the required length for the band bolts.

    If you need to add ballast to a doubles ring I'd recommend placing soft weight pouches between the wing and the back plate.

    That will free up the perimeter holes in the plate for your argon mount.

    Tobin
     
  3. Rainer

    Rainer DIR Practitioner

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    What about those wanting to add an argon mount to their DSS plate (with weight plates) but who aren't using it with doubles? Any workarounds?
     
  4. cool_hardware52

    cool_hardware52 Dive Equipment Manufacturer

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    No, sorry.

    Of course very few diving single cylinders will see any real benefit from argon.

    Tobin
     
  5. Rainer

    Rainer DIR Practitioner

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    Was thinking for when monkey diving in a dry suit.

    Jen also uses an argon bottle with her DSS plate when we're in Monterey (long runs even on a single 130), but she doesn't use the weight plates (but I do).

    Oh well.

     
  6. BigBubbaJ

    BigBubbaJ DIR Practitioner

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    Tobin,
    So you are saying just use soft weights with no attachment? Seems simple enough and I do have the necessary ones on hand. I did notice the bolts got very short but I didn't think it was contraindicated.
    Good to know. Soft weights I already own are cheaper than an H v weight :)
    Too bad as the plates are very slick and I sort of miss them being useful.
    Thanks,

    Justin
     
  7. cool_hardware52

    cool_hardware52 Dive Equipment Manufacturer

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    Yup, just drop the soft weights in the "V" between the cylinders.

    The wing keeps the weights from passing between the tanks, and the band bolts keep them from falling out the top or bottom. The plate clamps every thing in place.

    Tobin
     
  8. Peter Guy

    Peter Guy Divemaster

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    Tobin, I beg to differ regarding the benefit of Argon when using a single (130) tank -- at least here in the PNW and farther north. An hour in 45 degree water is cold whether I'm using doubles or the 130!

    I just use to pieces of bungie to hold my Argon bottle and use the weight plates as designed. No problems with holding the bottle and it doesn't interfere with the plates. I could not use the big web bottle holder but the bungie works just fine.
     
  9. cool_hardware52

    cool_hardware52 Dive Equipment Manufacturer

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    Air (or nitrox) vs Argon testing has shown essentially no difference.

    OTOH Argon vs Trimix has lots of anecdotal evidence to support the use of argon as a suit inflation gas in lieu of He.

    Not many folks diving Trimix in a single tank........

    There may be a few applications calling for argon with a single tank, but it would still be atypical.

    Tobin
     
  10. elan

    elan DIR Practitioner

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    I wonder how you manage to place your bottle that high. When I place mine higher then the horizontal center-lane it tends to shift my tanks to the left So the left valve becomes difficult to reach. But your plate looks wider, probably it's a large one

    One point, even if you manage to put everything together with those plates you will have hard time switching between the different tanks. The weighting is different and the trim is different. My wife and me use our DSS setups with 4 different tanks and they are all different. I would use v-weight or soft weight instead.
     

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