An age-old question: ways to 60m.

[Celt]

SOooo, is it your premise that since there has been no high profile deep air incidents since 1992 that deep air is safe?

Reading through this, God knows why, reminds me of the old saying "nothing is a total loss, it can always be used as a bad example".
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Since you mentioned 1992 maybe you should have a look at accidents involving divers on trimix on the Andrea Doria or maybe look at the 313 fatalities on rebreathers between 1998- 2018

 

[flymolo]

The accident involving the Rouses had nothing to do with the fact they were diving air as bottom gas.
Shortly after entering the wreck Chris Jr. was trapped by falling debris; loosened silt reduced the visibility to nearly zero. Chris Sr. entered or was already just inside the wreck and began to dig out Chris Jr., further reducing the visibility. After Chris Jr. was freed, the two divers were unable to follow their line out; according to statements by Chris Jr., and examination of their equipment, they evidently began exploring with line for a new exit. During their exit, it appears Chris Jr. experienced some trouble with his primary regulator and switched to his secondary regulator, but it was taking in water. At this time Chris Sr. gave Chris Jr. his secondary regulator and they continued out of the wreck. After finding the exit, Chris Jr. noted it had taken 31 minutes for them to get out, 11 minutes longer then their planned bottom time. They were able to locate only one stage bottle (EAN60) and were so low on air with no more time at depth to search for the anchor line or the remaining bottles they left for the surface. They may have attempted some decompression in mid-water.

That’s a big “if” as to whether any of it went down that way

 

[Celt]

That’s a big “if” as to whether any of it went down that way

So it’s a big if now, and not the fact they happened to be using air as bottom mix, what a pack of bluffers.

 

[Boarderguy]

I know of, and knew 1 personally, more rebreather deaths than I do deep air deaths/injuries.

Timix is the best gas option for deep dives but is it not always available or accessible. You all are ridiculous with your berating of something you have no experience with.

Deep air is a great way to go about getting to see some of these deeper sites. No penetration and in OW, no big deal. Staying within a 1.6 PP i can still go to 212 fsw if I do choose.

 

[flymolo]

So it’s a big if now, and not the fact they happened to be using air as bottom mix, what a pack of bluffers.

Just saying you are using an account published in a book by someone who wasn’t on the dive to say that none of what happened was attributable to their poor gas choices.

 

[Celt]

Just saying you are using an account published in a book by someone who wasn’t on the dive to say that none of what happened was attributable to their poor gas choices.

The account I gave is the one given by Chris Rouse Jr. and he was the one on the dive.

 

[flymolo]

The account I gave is the one given by Chris Rouse Jr. and he was the one on the dive.

Where can I read that?

 

[Celt]

Where can I read that?

Why bother, don’t you believe the GUE gods that all diving accidents past 100 feet are caused by using air to deep, are you having a crisis of faith.

 

[flymolo]

Why bother, don’t you believe the GUE gods that all diving accidents past 100 feet are caused by using air to deep, are you having a crisis of faith.

lol that’s pretty funny. I barely said anything in this dumb thread except that I don’t think the accounts are reliable enough for anyone to speak in absolute terms about what happened.

 

[nadwidny]

I am just a Muppet on the interwebz, but this thread is kind of showing that "60m dives on air went out of fashion" might be more aspirational than factual.
There might be a day when 60m is always done on Trimix. Is today this day?

Except for the numpties that day was 15-20 years ago.