Am I carrying to much weight on my Halcyon Wing and harness

[scubadude223]

Please Advise.


I currently am Diving with a Halcyon Single Wing with integrated weights. Do I have to much on me


I have a Single Tank adaptor Weight 6 Lbs
I have a Steel BackPlate 6 Lbs
tank band weight pouches 2 on bottom band 2 on top 16 Lbs Between the Two
Dropable Weight Pouches 10 Lbs Between the two

I have a total of 38 Lbs of Lead carried all on the rig

I am afraid that I have to much weight. I dont know what to do


Thanks for the help

 

[EFX]

You sound massively overweighted to me. If you haven't done so already you might want to go through a weight check. There are plenty of references here on SB to help you. Is your STA really 6 lbs? My SS one is almost 2 lbs. Subtracting the ditchable weight of 10 lbs. you have 24 lbs. left. This is an awful lot of weight to swim up with.

 

[MKrauter]

What size is the wing? What exposure protection are you wearing? What type of tank are you using?


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[nimoh]

The Halcyon STA is 6 lbs. At least mine is, and I'm pretty sure Halcyon doesn't have more than one.

As previously posted, you do sound very overweighted. The tank and exposure protection are important pieces of information with regards to how much weight you can remove, but a proper weight check would be a better way to go.

For me, in my drysuit with 400g undergarments and an aluminum 80, I have 4lbs in tank band trim pockets with my Halcyon steel backplate and STA for a total of 16lbs.

 

[tbone1004]

halcyon makes two. Weighted and unweighted. Unweighted is about 2lbs.

Also remember each SS cam band is 1lb.

It sounds like you have too much, but if you have a lot of bioprene, are diving a 7mm farmer john, and an AL80 it might not be that far off.

One of the points that I disagree with Tobin on is that a person needs to know the following independently of each other in order to make good buoyancy decisions

Their individual buoyancy, either positive or negative. Mine is 2lbs negative, most are a pound or so positive.

Suit buoyancy

rig buoyancy

only then can you accurately calculate how much ballast you need to take. The suit buoyancy is especially important because for many people wearing a wetsuit can adversely effect how they breathe which is bad, and they can also trap air pockets, also bad during your weight checks.

 

[cool_hardware52]

One of the points that I disagree with Tobin on is that a person needs to know the following independently of each other in order to make good buoyancy decisions

Their individual buoyancy, either positive or negative. Mine is 2lbs negative, most are a pound or so positive.

Suit buoyancy

rig buoyancy

only then can you accurately calculate how much ballast you need to take. The suit buoyancy is especially important because for many people wearing a wetsuit can adversely effect how they breathe which is bad, and they can also trap air pockets, also bad during your weight checks.

Ah, not sure what we disagree on. I too want to know the suit buoyancy and max negative of the rig.

Personal buoyancy will impact total weighting, but does not always impact required wing lift. Buoyancy Compensators are used to compensate for things that change WRT depth, and personal buoyancy doesn't change WRT to depth as long as the diver is breathing compressed gas.

Tobin

---------- Post added April 29th, 2015 at 11:27 AM ----------

Please Advise.


I currently am Diving with a Halcyon Single Wing with integrated weights. Do I have to much on me


I have a Single Tank adaptor Weight 6 Lbs
I have a Steel BackPlate 6 Lbs
tank band weight pouches 2 on bottom band 2 on top 16 Lbs Between the Two
Dropable Weight Pouches 10 Lbs Between the two

I have a total of 38 Lbs of Lead carried all on the rig

I am afraid that I have to much weight. I dont know what to do


Thanks for the help

I suspect you are overweighted, but there are other concerns as well.

You have:

6 lbs of plate and harness
6 lbs of STA
16 lbs in pouches on the cambands
10 lbs in pouches on waist band
2 lbs of regulator
??lbs of full cylinder(typical full al 80 is -2 lbs, typical full steel is -9~-12 lbs)


Without *any tank* you have a rig that is ~-40 lbs. AFAIK largest Halcyon wing offers 40 lbs of lift.

With even a full al 80 you are at -42 lbs

With say a full HP 100 you are at -50 lbs.

I'd suggest you test your suit to determine just how buoyant it is. That will give you a huge clue about total weighting.

I'd also suggest you move some of your ballast off your rig and onto your person on either a belt or weight harness.

Tobin

 

[nimoh]

halcyon makes two. Weighted and unweighted. Unweighted is about 2lbs.

I stand corrected. I was speaking about the STA with the proprietary weight inserted, didn't consider that the weight may have been removed

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

Not enough info to answer the question ... also need to know ...

- body weight and build
- type of drysuit
- type of undergarment
- tank buoyancy specs

Best way to find out is to do a buoyancy check ... nobody's going to be able to tell you on the internet whether 38 lbs is too much ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[cool_hardware52]

Not enough info to answer the question ... also need to know ...

- body weight and build
- type of drysuit
- type of undergarment
- tank buoyancy specs

Best way to find out is to do a buoyancy check ... nobody's going to be able to tell you on the internet whether 38 lbs is too much ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

Total ballast, no, not enough info.

Too much rig mounted ballast for a 40 lbs wing? More than enough info.

Tobin

 

[eelnoraa]

38lb ballast sound a lot to me even with dry suit and thick undie. Also, putting all the eight on the rig is also a bad idea IMO. But you should first figure out how much you need, then figure how to distribute. Doing a weight check with empty tank in shallow water is easier to test suit buoyance