DIR- GUE Adjust weighing for stage bottles?

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Since stage tanks are usually (always?) aluminum tanks, they will be positive when empty. This affects the balanced weighting of the entire rig. I have heard that stage tanks are not calculated as part of your weighting, since you need to be balanced in the event that you drop/stage/leave tanks. But does that also hold true for the positive buoyancy of empty stage bottles?

Having let's say two more or less empty AL80s (bottom stage + deco stage) when you arrive at your final deco stop would provide quite a bit of positive buoyancy, that you need to deal with. Or is there something I'm missing? I realize there will usually be gas reserves in play, but in the worst case scenario with gas sharing, I assume you wouldn't want to struggle with being too light on top off an already sticky situation.

TLDR:
Do you adjust your weighting to account for positive buoyancy of empty stages. If so, how? Do you just add the weights you estimate for the buoyancy characteristics of the stage bottle? Or do you do a weight check with each configuration?

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I assume this will be covered in a tech class, but I like to get a head start on the topics covered before I take a class.
 
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Your stage tanks don't get emptied. You use maybe 2/3 of each.
Stage tanks do get emptied.

DIR forum. We do halves on stages.

So on a multi stage thing, a considerable amount (maybe even all) of your backgas is pure reserve. This weight offsets the positive buoyancy of the stages. If you need to dip into your backgas, ditch the empty stages.

You might run in to some weight issues if your backgas is a super high helium gas where it just isn’t heavy enough to offset the positive stages. If that’s the case, a few extra Lbs added is fine.
On a tech 1 dive you donate to the lost deco gas diver on one stop, then keep it for yourself on the next stop, alternating, in a 3 diver team one donates on one stop, then the next donates on the next stop, then both use their own gas on the next stop

then double your 20' stop time

or make the switches at each stop on your computer and ride it up

I'm only tech 1, I don't know if that changes at a tech 2 level
this sounds about right... although im not a tech1 yet....
 
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