7 ft. Hose...gggrrrrhhh

[Splitlip]

Why a 7 ft hose? Do you make penetrations in which you have to go single file? A 7 ft hose is great in those situations, but in other situations, there's absolutely no need for it.

Agree with Walter. If you don't need it, why bother with the hassle. I dive with a necklaced alternate and a standard length hose on my primary.
Only advantage I see to a long hose wrapped around the diver over the standard length hose in open water is the loop which floats out there like a big halo is eliminated. I was on a hang once when the line got bunched up with divers. The guy above me somehow got his cylinder slipped between the regulator hose and my head. Not a big deal, but I will be trying a 40" hose with a swivle under my right arm. (Yeah yeah OMG a swivel)

 

[String]

Even in open water if you want to air share with someone and swim or even ascend its a hell of a lot more comfortable with a 5 or 7ft hose.

If you can stow it comfortably why NOT use one?

Teaching i have to use a normal octo for setup and modify my regs as such or im breaking agency standards but when diving for fun its much nicer with a longer hose

 

[Splitlip]

Even in open water if you want to air share with someone and swim or even ascend its a hell of a lot more comfortable with a 5 or 7ft hose.

If you can stow it comfortably why NOT use one?

Teaching i have to use a normal octo for setup and modify my regs as such or im breaking agency standards but when diving for fun its much nicer with a longer hose

I agree especialy if not making a direct accent. Direct accent, I don't think it becomes an issue. If I were sharing air with a stranger however, I would not permit him to get out my arms reach.
I was able to swim side by side with my daughter on a standard length hose. It was a bit of a challange, but as I said, I am thinking about a 40" under my right arm.
I have used a 5 ' hose. Fairly easy to manage, but I found it conflicted with my right chest D-ring and my necklace.

 

[String]

You dont have to let someone out of arm reach with a long hose. Its no different to a short hose grip in that respect. Even a direct ascent getting some room is useful to sort things out and shoot a bag if needed.
Yes you can do side by side with a standard 3.5ft hose but its a lot nicer with a 5ft (or 7ft). Just found its just a lot more comfortable with a lot more room to move and sort things out prior to and during ascent.

Anyway, i cant teach with without breaking standards but i know which of the 2 i prefer

 

[pickens_46929]

So 5' or 7' is debatable here... was originally taught to use 5' hose for wreck diving... then started to switch to 7' for cave / cavern diving. Let's just call both a "long" hose for now.

So why a long hose?

Well even if you aren't doing wreck penetrations or overhead environments (caves / caverns), the main advantage is when diving with noobie divers (ok any diver that has potential to panic). They are likely to grab the "long" hose out of your mouth. That 20 to 36-inch difference in reach over a normal hose is enough to keep them away from you so they don't drag you or do something to you.

"Hi Jenny!" :wavey:

 

[mwhities]

I'm going to invest in a long hose for myself (7 feet). I just think it'd be more comfortable to be further away than closer. I had an OOG experience and I did NOT like the short hose.

My .02psi.

Michael

 

[Walter]

So 5' or 7' is debatable here... was originally taught to use 5' hose for wreck diving... then started to switch to 7' for cave / cavern diving. Let's just call both a "long" hose for now.

So why a long hose?

Well even if you aren't doing wreck penetrations or overhead environments (caves / caverns), the main advantage is when diving with noobie divers (ok any diver that has potential to panic). They are likely to grab the "long" hose out of your mouth. That 20 to 36-inch difference in reach over a normal hose is enough to keep them away from you so they don't drag you or do something to you.

First, if you need a 5 ft hose, the extra 2 feet can get in the way. Don't take more than you need. Second, an OOA diver grabbing your primary is more myth than reality. I've rescued a bunch of OOA divers, one and only one reached for my primary. He was a cave instructor and was likely trained to react in that manner. Even if such a reaction was more common, the length of your hose would not stop it from happening. Finally, unless you are on a penetration dive requiring a single file exit, you don't want to be keeping the OOA diver away from you. You, as the donor, want a solid grip on their BC to keep control of the situation. Yes, I realise you can do that with a 5 or 7 ft hose, but a long hose is not necessary in that situation.

 

[SkullDeformity]

Oh those whippersnappers and their long hoses walter!

 

[Walter]

There's nothing wrong with a long hose, they are very useful when you need them, but they are not a be all, end all.

 

[D_B]

Agree with Walter. If you don't need it, why bother with the hassle. I dive with a necklaced alternate and a standard length hose on my primary.
Only advantage I see to a long hose wrapped around the diver over the standard length hose in open water is the loop which floats out there like a big halo is eliminated. I was on a hang once when the line got bunched up with divers. The guy above me somehow got his cylinder slipped between the regulator hose and my head. Not a big deal, but I will be trying a 40" hose with a swivle under my right arm. (Yeah yeah OMG a swivel)

heh .. I have a 42" hose routed under right arm, I like the length ... Oh, and I have a swivel too no less :11: .. maybe I'll explde and see you on the bottom