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Only one of those dives would have counted in my book. If this is what the prosecution is using, it is misleading. If Gabe's 50 dives were logged this way, it is misleading. Based on the depths and times, I would estimate that the first 5 dives are her Confined water training sessions in the...

I went back through K_Girl's Issues, Statement, and Sources thread, and re-read the verbatim statements that Watson made. I have to say that most of the statements are incoherent babbling. Ayisha, you keep going back to Watson's statements as the source for self incrimination and I honestly...

Wow! I was tempted to respond with a quote to every post on the previous page. Bowlofpetunias clear thought and links to and summation of Carl Edmund's comments, Foxfish's concise summary of statements, Boulderjohn's clear experiencial example of a male diver grossly overstating his abilities...

The trial isn't about other people's liability, but I believe that you are certainly correct in your assertion. Maybe someone can answer your question. I don't know. It seems like liability lies in a number of places, starting with Gabe, but also with Tina. People need to take responsibility...

Yes, I agree and will add a little, since I was working on it when you posted! As far as being an expert, the only thing that I see lacking is work with many new students. Seeing many new divers, the mistakes that they make, how they react to those mistakes, and how they handle stress IMO is...

This is not a court room. Everyone can have an opinion, but should try to keep things straight. It seems that most of the evidence is shaky testimony based on foggy memories and opinion. The only facts are the in the computers and McFadyen pieces that information together pretty nicely to...

"he felt he was being watched and wondered what people would think of his actions." IMO this is one of the keys to understanding this guy. His self esteem or ego couldn't take the hit of others knowing he was incapable/incompetent. Most people would be wallowing in grief, he was still self...

If Gabe was indecisive, ("should I go up, should I go back?, am I supposed to do a safety stop?", etc.) then the amount of time it took him to surface is explainable. Add the other emotions in, as well. Scared, embarrassed, shocked, disbelief, inadequate, and more, and you have a very confused...

bop, new divers confuse the inflate/deflate buttons all of the time. Also the SPG and the LPI. Familiarization with gear in the classroom and repetition in the pool go a long way to prevent confusion, but.. When they finally get it figured out, they run out and buy new equipment for the...

Foxfish, Very interesting. Maybe this was discussed somewhere back in the multitude of posts and threads? Good thinking. I never considered this. I did speculate that she could have suffered from Hypercapnia or Hypoxia as a result of improper breathing, but didn't really consider the...

I think that the "just press the button testimony" is misleading. The "expert witness" makes it sound, to a non-diver jury or media, like there is a magic button. If a diver or rescuer is not focused and is grabbing the SPG instead of the LPI, they aren't going to find the button. Even with 4...

Agreed! I just wanted to clarify. I also figured with your years of experience in the Keys, that you likely had pretty much "seen it all" when it comes to dysfunction.

As a witness, muscle memory from practice and 1000 dives does not improve the ability to testify as to what a novice diver without muscle memory and practice would do when panicking and under duress. There are plenty of divers out there who have worked with 1000s of inexperienced divers and who...

I apologize for screaming things over and over. With the court case hot right now, some things deserve to be repeated. The media and the majority of casual observers have already convicted Watson. Some of us here on SB are the only people speaking up for the possibility of Watson being not...

There is dangerous testimony going on there. Dr Milsap reports that "panicking divers always go to the surface." When asked who goes to the bottom he reports' " dead or unconscious divers.". The story that I related a few post ago completely refutes that testimony. I call bull**** on...

Based on Stutz most recent testimony. Stutz saw Watson make contact with Tina, putting his arms under hers, after (less than 30 seconds Watson ascends as Tina sinks... *Watson noticed that she was negative, and tried to lift her by placing his arms under hers. *She dislodges his mask, and he...

It is not unreasonable to think that Watson doesn't clearly remember the events of that day, so his story changed based on what he thought that he remembered. It is not unreasonable to think that Tina had passive panic similar to the woman in the story above. It is not unreasonable to think...

Wow. Messy. I covered the following story in a past post, but it is worth mentioning again. While teaching an advanced open water class, I saw a diver (not from our group) descending fairly rapidly lying on her back with arms out in a position not unlike what we see in the final photo of...

Yes, the more I read, I become positive that it was not a murder. I conduct air depletion exercises with my students everyday. It takes at least 5 seconds to turn the valve all of the way off, and on average, a female diver will take another 30 seconds to breath all of the air out of the hoses...

Looking at the infamous photo again, there are some more considerations. The photographer's perspective is a steep downward angle. Singleton is more below, than behind the person in the foreground. The photo appears to be taken with a wide angle/fish eye lense or setting. This distorts the...