Question about the Perdix AI

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Bottom of the wreck is 55M.

I am aware that computers are not magic. That's why I'm asking the question to find out how it is programmed. I don't really want to dive and find out that it is programmed differently from what I expected. I may remove the transmitter for the dive if I can't figure out what it will do.
 
The transmitter and how it works is probably the most straight forward part of this. It will read the tank pressure it's connected to, and that's it.

I suspect that the reason that the shop is suggesting air and 32 if that they bank 32 (so it's easy) or that most of the wreck where you are likely to dive is in the Eanx 32 "range"... although from say 33 meters to 55 meters is quite a range.

As a deco gas, 32 is somewhat pointless. Air is dangerous at 55m unless you have done a lot of diving at that depth and know you can manage the narcosis. You certainly don't want to be trying to figure out how to work your computer while you're down there and narc'd out of your face.

Based solely on your comment that you are using the Perdix in rec mode suggests that you are not normally diving to this depth, but IMHO this dive should be done on a light trimix and then rich nitrox like 70% and 100% for deco.
 
Transmitter reads tank pressure only and is not required for the computer to do what it is designed to do. If you need to "switch" to 32 you simply select it from your available gases when you are underwater. As the 32 has no transmitter you will simply need to look at the SPG to get your pressure. The computer does not care one thing about the pressure of the 32 in regards to your deco obligation. It just knows you are on 32. The whole time it will still display the pressure in your other tank but that will not affect your on or off gassing in anyway.
 
The transmitter will read whichever tank it is attached to. That is straightforward and there is no question about that. The question is about what the computer will display when I switch gases to a tank without a transmitter. It is a totally different question.

I am diving in rec mode and that was stated clearly. The Perdix was purchased with a view towards taking the Tec courses since I am now going on at least one dive trip a month. Let's just say that I'm doing my bucket list. The max depth I have been to is 40M on a number of instances since July which is what I am certified for. I have also been on a number of deco dives with instructors since July. I have two trips with over 40 dives scheduled between now and November when the wreck dive is to take place, if it takes place. I was certified 30 years ago and the wreck dive is with industry professionals (an instructor turned dive equipment wholesaler and the resort owner both of whom were certified before I was since I was certified by the shop that they were then associated with at that time).

The question really was posed to help me understand how the Perdix is programmed. I have looked at the videos and glanced at the manual but have not found the answer.
 
Transmitter reads tank pressure only and is not required for the computer to do what it is designed to do. If you need to "switch" to 32 you simply select it from your available gases when you are underwater. As the 32 has no transmitter you will simply need to look at the SPG to get your pressure. The computer does not care one thing about the pressure of the 32 in regards to your deco obligation. It just knows you are on 32. The whole time it will still display the pressure in your other tank but that will not affect your on or off gassing in anyway.

OK. So switching the gas doesn't not alter the bottom center and right fields. I presume that turning off the air and purging the regulator will result in "no comms" being displayed in these fields.
 
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OK. So switching the gas doesn not alter the bottom center and right fields. I presume that turning off the air and purging the regulator will result in "no comms" being displayed in these fields.

Sure, but there is no reason to. Leave your gas on and charged, it is simply an electronic SPG.
 
Sure, but there is no reason to. Leave your gas on and charged, it is simply an electronic SPG.

OK. Thanks. I was wondering how Shearwater implemented their AI. I did not see a way of telling the computer what gas was in the tank that the transmitter was attached to. Perhaps something for Shearwater to work on if they saw a need for it.
 
The transmitter will read whichever tank it is attached to. That is straightforward and there is no question about that. The question is about what the computer will display when I switch gases to a tank without a transmitter. It is a totally different question.

I am diving in rec mode and that was stated clearly. The Perdix was purchased with a view towards taking the Tec courses since I am now going on at least one dive trip a month. Let's just say that I'm doing my bucket list. The max depth I have been to is 40M on a number of instances since July which is what I am certified for. I have also been on a number of deco dives with instructors since July. I have two trips with over 40 dives scheduled between now and November when the wreck dive is to take place, if it takes place. I was certified 30 years ago and the wreck dive is with industry professionals (an instructor turned dive equipment wholesaler and the resort owner both of whom were certified before I was since I was certified by the shop that they were then associated with at that time).

The question really was posed to help me understand how the Perdix is programmed. I have looked at the videos and glanced at the manual but have not found the answer.

So I think you have your answer now, right? If you switch the active gas, then "everything" will reflect that new gas... pO2, NDL or required deco etc.

Note also that when these computers are calculating, they assume you have the gases available, that you have "defined" and turned on. So a simple example of this... You define 21% and 99% as your available gases. As you accumulate nitrogen and the Perdix begins to show you required deco, it is doing the calculations based on the assumption that you are carrying that 99%. I only mention this because I've been caught on repetitive dives. I did a deeper dive, and used O2 for deco. I then did a shallower dive which would also required a bit of deco, but I hadn't bothered to take my O2. Realizing this mid dive, I turned off the O2 in my Petral and watched my deco obligation pretty much double... thankfully, it was a light obligation. This is one of the real benefits of the Shearwaters,,, They let you fix your errors on the fly.

Regarding your comments about your experience and the depth of the dive, I hope I didn't come across as being judgmental. I do air dives to 170'/180' frequently.

Note however that there is a VERY significant difference between 40M and 55M. Regardless of when you were certified, if you aren't used to doing dives to that depth, you are likely to "feel" it... I'm surprised that a dive op would endorse a dive to that depth on air, but then again, that might be the norm in that part of the world. Presumably it's a bit of a bounce dive as it doesn't seem like you are going to be properly rigged for a "serious" deep/deco dive with the bulk of the dive being shallower. As I said earlier, using 32% as a deco gas is almost pointless.
 
Regarding your comments about your experience and the depth of the dive, I hope I didn't come across as being judgmental. I do air dives to 170'/180' frequently.

Note however that there is a VERY significant difference between 40M and 55M. Regardless of when you were certified, if you aren't used to doing dives to that depth, you are likely to "feel" it... I'm surprised that a dive op would endorse a dive to that depth on air, but then again, that might be the norm in that part of the world. Presumably it's a bit of a bounce dive as it doesn't seem like you are going to be properly rigged for a "serious" deep/deco dive with the bulk of the dive being shallower. As I said earlier, using 32% as a deco gas is almost pointless.

I do not regard you as judgemental. If anything, it is my error for not making clear all the parameters of the dive. In fact, I am still at fault on this count. There is to be a 4th member on that dive - a DM currently working in the area. I am the least qualified to make the dive but there should be 3 other people to look after me should I be narc'd. In that event, there should be 3 other divers who are capable of saving my ass, 2 of whom have done the dive multiple times. Let's say that I will have a little redundancy for that.

I am not aware of whether the resort offers the dive to all guests. It is being arranged by my buddy the instructor. I have run the deco dive on the Perdix and do not intend to stick around the bottom for too long.
 
I do not regard you as judgemental. If anything, it is my error for not making clear all the parameters of the dive. In fact, I am still at fault on this count. There is to be a 4th member on that dive - a DM currently working in the area. I am the least qualified to make the dive but there should be 3 other people to look after me should I be narc'd. In that event, there should be 3 other divers who are capable of saving my ass, 2 of whom have done the dive multiple times. Let's say that I will have a little redundancy for that.

I am not aware of whether the resort offers the dive to all guests. It is being arranged by my buddy the instructor. I have run the deco dive on the Perdix and do not intend to stick around the bottom for too long.

That's good... You have more faith in your buddies than most of us have... ;-)

And ya, 55m makes for a pretty short dive if you are trying to avoid much deco... :)
 
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