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You can't see it? Dude, I understand how you feel about the GPO, but if you ever went to every dive shop in my city and got me banned from getting fills because I was doing something legal that you didn't like, I would get a lawyer and own your rear and every dive shop the joined in. When it was all said and done I'd own my own boat and compressor and a nice scuba trust fund to last me for the rest of your life.

Personally I can't see how this thread is oven on SB. It is a blatant example of REAL LIFE harassment, stalking, bullying.
Nobody has. "right" to air fills. It's a privilege that dive shops provide. If the shops chose to stop filling for this kid, it's their choice and I don't think Bob did anything but allow them to be aware of what this potential customer was doing to the dive site, which could cause them loss of future customers.
Many people confuse "rights" amd "privileges". They are not synonymous.

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Haven't read all the responses but I'm surprised nobody picked up on this punk putting a firecracker in the snakes mouth. Isn't this symptomatic of how some psycho's start out? Does Dennis Radar (BTK strangler), Jim Jones, Henry Lee Lucas ring a bell?

Studies have shown that individuals who enjoy or are willing to inflict harm on animals are more likely to do so to humans. One of the known warning signs of certain psychopathologies, including antisocial personality disorder, is a history of torturing pets and small animals. According to the New York Times:



Alan R. Felthous reported in his paper "Aggression Against Cats, Dogs, and People" (1980) that
"A survey of psychiatric patients who had repeatedly tortured dogs and cats found all of them had high levels of aggression toward people as well, including one patient who had murdered a boy."[4]

Also...In the United States, since 2010, it has been a federal offense to create or distribute "obscene" depictions of "living non-human mammals, birds, reptiles, or amphibians ... subjected to serious bodily injury".[8] This statute replaced an overly broad 1999 statute[9] which was found unconstitutional in United States v. Stevens.





Well written response and excellent information.
 
Usually Scubaboard exists in isolation from the rest of my life, much like Fight Club. What happens here stays here and I don't generally talk about it. When I read the OP initially I wished the story would get more attention, rally a hateful public so they can muster, pitchforks in hand, at this kid's door.

Since seeing it first here, I have been thrilled to see this story on a number of websites and posted all over my Facebook feed from multiple sources. Bob has done a fantastic job of getting this word out there. Legal or not, his activities were highly immoral. I'm glad to see somebody sticking up for what's right. Thanks for your efforts NWGD.
 
You can't see it? Dude, I understand how you feel about the GPO, but if you ever went to every dive shop in my city and got me banned from getting fills because I was doing something legal that you didn't like, I would get a lawyer and own your rear and every dive shop the joined in. When it was all said and done I'd own my own boat and compressor and a nice scuba trust fund to last me for the rest of your life.

Personally I can't see how this thread is oven on SB. It is a blatant example of REAL LIFE harassment, stalking, bullying.
Dive shop owners make their own decisions for their own reasons. I didn't convince any of them to do anything. I made them aware of what the kid did, and they made their own decisions accordingly.

As one shop owner put it ... "people like this are a headache we don't need". They didn't ban this kid because of what I said ... they banned him because of what he did.

This story got way out of hand. There are some things that happened that I do not condone, some that I find worse than what the kid did, and some that make me sorry for bringing it up in the first place. The decision of dive shops not to support this kid is not one of those things. Nothing he has said or done has shown me any indication that this young man has ever taken responsibility for his actions in any way ... nor does he now. Diving is all about personal responsibility. This kid's a pretty new diver ... one who not only doesn't know what he doesn't know, but is convinced that he has all the answers. That's exactly the attitude that puts dive businesses and instructors off, and raises red flags about someone's fitness to dive. Frankly, if someone came to me for lessons displaying this attitude, I would refuse to train them ... regardless of what else I knew or didn't know about them. And it would be as much for their sake as mine ... because guarantee that as soon as they get hurt doing something stupid, they're going to look for someone else to blame it on, and at that point, I don't want my name on their c-card.

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

... Bob (Grateful Diver)
 
Haven't read all the responses but I'm surprised nobody picked up on this punk putting a firecracker in the snakes mouth. Isn't this symptomatic of how some psycho's start out? Does Dennis Radar (BTK strangler), Jim Jones, Henry Lee Lucas ring a bell?

Studies have shown that individuals who enjoy or are willing to inflict harm on animals are more likely to do so to humans. One of the known warning signs of certain psychopathologies, including antisocial personality disorder, is a history of torturing pets and small animals. According to the New York Times:



Alan R. Felthous reported in his paper "Aggression Against Cats, Dogs, and People" (1980) that
"A survey of psychiatric patients who had repeatedly tortured dogs and cats found all of them had high levels of aggression toward people as well, including one patient who had murdered a boy."[4]

Also...In the United States, since 2010, it has been a federal offense to create or distribute "obscene" depictions of "living non-human mammals, birds, reptiles, or amphibians ... subjected to serious bodily injury".[8] This statute replaced an overly broad 1999 statute[9] which was found unconstitutional in United States v. Stevens.







CAREFUL!! I made the same connection and got roasted for it!!
 
As a layperson I agree with the three who say the dive shop did nothing illegal in denying anyone air fills, whereas stuff posted on the internet could possibly be harassment. Any lawyers out there who can spell out the specifics?
 
Hopefully people will listen and we see the birth of a new MPA.
 
A young kid hunts legally and gets harassed and his family threatened?
 
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