New Divers Beware: Sketchy dive shop in Cozumel puts profits over safety

[bvana1]

Have you complained to the licensing agency? (I'm assuming it's PADI.)

yes I did

 

[Texas Torpedo]

At the risk of being accused of defending Deep Blue (I'm not - I wasn't there and I don't know the op or anyone associated with it), I urge caution against skewering a business in a public forum on the basis of an unsubstantiated posting. There are at least two sides to every story, and it is hard for me to believe that an op (any op) would try to talk a diver into going on more dives who was coughing up blood and/or suffering from obvious barotrauma.

They've been invited to the thread.

 

[Thalassamania]

yes I did

good

They've been invited to the thread.

good

 

[Jackie]

Guess what ? The certified divers do not need an instructor to babysit them on a reef. They should have been left to do their dive and all the attention of the instructor should have been on his student.

the student may have been concerned about surfacing alone and rightfully so, especiallyin a drift situation.
so the world a favor and make a formal caomplaint to PADI.

 

[Texas Torpedo]

Guess what ? The certified divers do not need an instructor to babysit them on a reef. They should have been left to do their dive and all the attention of the instructor should have been on his student.

I'm not trying to nit-pick and I agree with you, however in Cozumel, if diving inside the marine park, a marine park approved dive master is required to be with the divers on the charter, no matter their certification level.

 

[Texas Torpedo]

yes I did

Would you mind responding to some of the questions posted in this thread, especially the ones that relate to the training you received prior to the two dives you outlined in your first post?

 

[MMM]

yes I did

Have you heard back from them yet?

 

[Kilili]

If students were ready to take responsibility for their own actions, and/or had developed the judgement that they should not do things contrary to, then they'd not be students and they'd not be diving with Instructors (e.g., people supposedly specially trained and tested concerning their ability to take responsibility for the safety or people who are in the process of developing their better judgement). No?

Well, the advantage of not taking responsibility for your own life, is that you can always find someone or something to blame for what happened to you. However, doing so makes you a victim, and, as such, robs you of the power to do something about it.

If you feel better living this kind of life, so be it. Certainly many people do. Blame the instructor, blame the other person, blame the weather, just blame anything other than yourself.

Taking responsibility is a way of living, to take control of your own life. A student takes [or should take] responsibility for signing up for a class, selecting an instructor, staying with one whose actions are not in their best interest, diving with people who act in a similar fashion, pushing beyond your area of expertise. Being able to say "but I wasn't responsible" brings little comfort if you are dead as a result of it.

 

[Thalassamania]

Well, the advantage of not taking responsibility for your own life, is that you can always find someone or something to blame for what happened to you. However, doing so makes you a victim, and, as such, robs you of the power to do something about it.

No, not at all. The point is that the instructor has a duty and did not meet it, that's all. If you have trouble with the concept of duty, you should go live as a hermit for you're not fit for civilized societies.

If you feel better living this kind of life, so be it. Certainly many people do. Blame the instructor, blame the other person, blame the weather, just blame anything other than yourself.

When someone has a duty and does not meet that duty then they should be called on it. It is not a matter of "blaming someone else" it is a matter of identifying that someone did not conduct themselves in an appropriate fashion.

Taking responsibility is a way of living, to take control of your own life. A student takes [or should take] responsibility for signing up for a class, selecting an instructor, staying with one whose actions are not in their best interest, diving with people who act in a similar fashion, pushing beyond your area of expertise. Being able to say "but I wasn't responsible" brings little comfort if you are dead as a result of it.

Every day you do things that are out of your control in which other people have a duty to prevent your coming to harm, this is true of walking down the street next to moving traffic, being in a house, eating in a restaurant, riding in any sort of a vehicle, the list is almost endless.

 

[ggunn]

I agree with that. But if they did...

Aye, and there's the rub, isn't it? A pattern that has emerged in here of late is that someone posts something negative about something a dive op has done, and immediately folks open fire and start blasting away with absolutely no firsthand knowledge of what did or did not happen. When the OP has no prior track record on this forum, I take it with a very large grain of salt.