ianr33
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I believe I have a good understanding.![]()
Was replying to rchandler,not you Don
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I believe I have a good understanding.![]()
And to think others might actually be impressed such an action . . . really?
How many know the actual, real story directly from one of the victims, or how many have had events relayed to them from someone who was told by someone was told by someone who heard it directly? I would guess that like any serious situation, the details get around and along the way, there are omissions, additions and changes.I am curious how "many people" could know the details of the planned dive and actual events. One of the injured stated in another thread that a downcurrent forced them lower than planned...yet several pages back, someone stated that a downcurrent was not a factor.
Dandy Don said: "I cannot discuss secrets sent in PMs or gleaned from between the line reading, sorry."
Well if Dandy Don ain't talkin' ......
Maybe somebody could send these top secret PMs over to Wikileaks.
It was called the post-office game when I was a wee-tot.I would guess that like any serious situation, the details get around and along the way, there are omissions, additions and changes.
Bounce dive to 300 fsw. Max depth 350+ for Gabi & Opal. 21% back gas. Single tank each. No deco bottles or support divers. No technical training. I'm guessing that the tanks are either AL80 or AL100 as ScubaMau did not have steel tanks, or that is the answer I got when I inquired when I last dove with them. No, there was no so-called down-current. It played no role in this incident.
What I've taken from the bits and pieces, and between the lines, of what's been posted is that IF there was a down current, to get pushed to 300ft you'd have to have been pretty deep to start with.
The other thing is that if there is no dive accident coverage for dm's in Cozumel, and if there are a lot of dive professionals there who are totally uninsured, not even having basic medical coverage, that's a really scary thing. They all pay dues to various agencies and associations to keep their professional affiliations, both as individuals and their businesses. This is something that those organizations should be getting behind them and fighting for. I cannot imagine doing something with so much risk on a daily basis, knowing that if something went wrong, I'd be financially screwed, or maybe even denied care if I couldn't pay for it.
Is the above dive plan by itself enough to run out of air? Or did something else have to happen to cause the OOA situation?
I don't dive this deep so have to ask this question. Is the above dive plan by itself enough to run out of air? Or did something else have to happen to cause the OOA situation?
I think that over at http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/cozumel/395669-thread-split-dan-insurance-cozumel-dms.html it's been determined -- from both direct contact with DAN and review of DAN documents -- that such coverage *is* available. However, the medical coverage for dive accidents is very very low -- only $5K for any incident occurring in Mexico....The other thing is that if there is no dive accident coverage for dm's in Cozumel....