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For me personally I do not like what I feel is high risk. Some people thrive on it. I like having a clear shot to the surface.

Lee: wise words, mate. You have identified a limit and you opt to stay this side of it. I wish more would own up and make a similarly informed decision before getting themselves into difficulties...

Yeah cave diving is great, right up until the phone rings and someone you know has died in one. Everybody considering t better be ok with that. Sooner or later that is a reality.

... because as Kevin reminds us, there is a dark side to any high-risk activity. Going into it with our eyes closed to the level of risk -- or worse yet, understanding the risk and thinking you can "man" your way through it -- never ends well.
 
One day I hope to try cave diving. Reading all these stories of accidents, stuff ups and just plain idiots doing cave diving almost makes me think that the sport is harder then brain surgery. (waits for some brain surgeon to cut in).
It isn't though, if I want to be able to do I'll need to be able to be very proficient at diving and start understanding DIR etc.
 
One day I hope to try cave diving. Reading all these stories of accidents, stuff ups and just plain idiots doing cave diving almost makes me think that the sport is harder then brain surgery. (waits for some brain surgeon to cut in).
It isn't though, if I want to be able to do I'll need to be able to be very proficient at diving and start understanding DIR etc.


Nothing hard about it, until something goes wrong. If you are prepared for it even that isnt hard to deal with.
 
When something goes wrong, control your fear first. After that let experience take over. Plenty of problems could occur and those you can cope with, but an error in judgement from panic can be deadly. Sheck Exley/ This goes for all diving.
 
When something goes wrong, control your fear first. After that let experience take over. Plenty of problems could occur and those you can cope with, but an error in judgement from panic can be deadly. Sheck Exley/ This goes for all diving.

Agree, and that doesn't matter what you're doing.

In diving, cave or otherwise, I find that the more air I have with me, the calmer I can be when things don't go as they should. Last week, for example, I found myself over 2,000 feet back in a cave with all of my rebreather's O2 gone. I think an alum 80 bailout bottle I had slung on my right side had pushed against my O2 manual-add valve and the O2 simply was injected and emptied out thru my open over-pressure valve on my counterlung. I was scootering so didn't hear the bubbles. Anyway, I had over 200 cubic feet of air available to "bailout" with, and never thought about getting stressed (well, at least didn't think about it for very long).

I don't know if anyone can ever get totally rid of panic - I know I can't - but agree that the more you think about and plan for the things that can go wrong, the better the chances are that you can remain calmer and clearer thinking when they actually do. That buys you time, and time is usually what you need to find a safe way out of a cave, a wreck, or even off of a shallow reef.
 
Cave diving isn't particularly hard, but it does take conscious effort at times. I watched some ocean divers getting cave training this last week. They kept letting their knees drop, so their trim was wrong, and they began to exert too much effort to swim forwards, and stirred up more silt.

Proper trim isn't hard, but it does take some conscious effort to learn good habits.

Caves have a surprising amount of life in them, sometimes. I have been photographing crayfish for the last year, and every system has slightly different crayfish. I just saw my first baby crayfish last week, and it was amazingly beautiful. Smaller than my pinky finger fingernail, next to a crayfish the size of my thumb.

There are isopods and amphipods, and fish. There are silt worms and bacteria colonies.

Every cave has unique architecture, and many exhibit huge contrasts between different parts of the cave. I absolutely love the "cracked floor" with miniature canyons in the Hill 400 section of Ginnie. The wide bedding plains at Jug Hole fascinate me. The 80' drop from 60 to 140 in a huge vertical tunnel at a cave I won't name publicly blew my mind, as did the turtle shell I found 400' back in the system.

Anyone who thinks caves are boring...well then, fine, thank you very much for staying out of the caves. Less traffic equals less damage, and I'd hate for the caves to be wasted on someone who doesn't appreciate them. If you don't see the beauty though, I'm convinced you aren't doing it right. I don't know what gets in the way, maybe the overwhelming task loading?, but I find caves so much more beautiful than the expanse of the ocean floor.

In caves, there are no sharks to eat me, no corals to sting me, no waves to make my fellow divers sick, or to hide me from the boat when I surface. No need to blow something up at 80 to make sure the boat sees me. No problem holding a 10' deco stop. On land I am claustrophobic and scared of the dark, underwater I love nothing more than to wedge myself in a tight hole, turn out my light, and wait for other divers to pass. Seeing the cave through other's lights opens it up in a whole new way for me.

This thread has me excited to be leaving for cave country in 4 hours :)

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oooohhhh is it post your favorite cave photo of yourself time!?!?
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None of those photos are of me :)
I know, I made a guest appearance in your pics :wink:

And for the record, me diving a computer was a joke, I *DO NOT* use such crutches on real dives.
 
oooohhhh is it post your favorite cave photo of yourself time!?!?
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James,

I have to say that your recent cave videos are amoung some of the best I've seen. I hope you will find a way of continuing do so, because it makes being in VA when the caves are in FL much more tolerable, even if you take that distant job offer.
 
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