Horizontal Obsession

[MXGratefulDiver]

Bob, I think you went a little over the top here.

In this case, John, I really don't care what you think.

Nemrod did make an anti-DIR statement, which he has done before. It was more against a perceived attitude among certain posters. It was actually somewhat on topic, since he was saying that an obsession with diving horizontal is a DIR rule. Whether he is right or not would make an interesting response.

Uh huh ... and that same exact behavior has gotten some pretty strident responses from NetDoc in other threads against posters he has labelled POV Warriors.

Nemrod is a POV Warrior ... he fits every aspect of the description. The only difference is the group of members he chooses to target.

Is he treated the same as the other POV Warriors?

Nope.

Why not?

I would hesitate to equate one comment in one post in a long thread with what has been called being a POV warrior.

I wouldn't ... it's a simple matter of fairness ... either we treat everyone on the board equitably, or we drop the whole nonsense with the term Pete has chosen to apply to only a handful of members.

Nemrod's perceptions don't interest me ... they're as ignorant as some of the rants that NetDoc has decided to disallow others from discussing.

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[boulderjohn]

Boulderjohn was right it has been an entertaining thread.

Well, I guess that has come to a crashing halt.

 

[Teamcasa]

Captain, the horizontal position obsession is a DIR, cave, drysuit thing.

How odd ... I learned it from my YMCA instructor long before I ever heard of DIR. Since he's also not DIR, nor a cave diver, nor a drysuit diver, I can't imagine why he was so concerned about us not silting up the dive site...

Just saying as I am sort of worn out with the skills bragging, diving skill is not an exclusive DIR right.

This turtle is not DIR obviously because....
fans up all the silt, guess he did not read secret DIR rule.....

Must be one of them DIR fellers ...

When did this become yet another soapbox for an anti-DIR rant?

Just how exactly did you discover my secret plan to infiltrate the DIR ranks and infuse a little humor?

Dave ... I ain't the one who brought DIR into this conversation.

Can you read?

Sorry Bob, I was just brailling my way through the above..

 

[elan]

A good topic went down the toilet ...

 

[Cave Diver]

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[Adobo]

To keep the record straight, the Captain did not say we shouldn't ever be horizontal when diving. He lines up in the direction he's swimming. That is usually horizontal, but not always. I follow the same procedure. I'm usually horizontal because I'm usually swimming horizontally, but sometimes I swim up, down or at an angle because that's the direction in which I'm headed.

I am far from a graceful swimmer but for the life of me, I cannot figure out how someone would swim in a direction unless their body was oriented in that direction. I mean, can you "swim" in a vertical direction if your body is in a horizontal position?

Of course, people can ascend and descend without swimming. Usually this is done using a combination of breath control and manipulating one's buoyancy device. Ascending and descending in this fashion can be done in a horizontal or vertical position (or somewhere in between).

The merits of doing an ascent/descent while horizontal vs doing so while vertical might be interesting. However, the discussion around being horizontal while swimming in a horizontal direction seems strange to me.

 

[Walter]

I cannot figure out how someone would swim in a direction unless their body was oriented in that direction.

I see it quite often. The diver is overweighted and swims along at a 45° angle. The angle gives some thrust to the rear to move him forward and some thrust down to keep him from sinking.

 

[fnfalman]

Which is better? Vertical Tango or Horizontal Mambo?

 

[boulderjohn]

The merits of doing an ascent/descent while horizontal vs doing so while vertical might be interesting.

And it would be right on topic for this thread.

 

[Gombessa]

I don't know why this is labeled an "obsession," but I remember from PADI OW that the natural, or default position underwater should be horizontal. One of my SSI friends said the same about his OW class, so it sounds less like any obsession and more like what many people are simply taught from the beginning.