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I think we all need to gather in one place, watch all the video's, look at the log books, interview each captain, look at the GPS plots, and get drunk. We won't resolve anything, or even agree on the outcome, but at least we'll be drunk. I'll buy the beer.
 
I think we all need to gather in one place, watch all the video's, look at the log books, interview each captain, look at the GPS plots, and get drunk. We won't resolve anything, or even agree on the outcome, but at least we'll be drunk. I'll buy the beer.

I'll buy the shots!
See you topside! John Save the whales
 
After the recent loss of the Ady Gil, the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society has been forced to make some budget cuts. The most noteworthy of these is the introduction of their replacement boat, the Ady Gil II

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The Ady Gil tried to evade being run over by the Shonan Maru.
I think it is pretty clear.

Only clear if you ignore the video evidence and base your opinion entirely on what Sea Shepherd said. Looking at the video's objectively can lead to no conclusion other than the Ady Gil deliberately put their boat in harms way.
 
Yes!!! You finally get it.. They were to blame, should have left the ship ALONE!!! Play with the bull, you get the horns. They are STUPID!!! :D

I'm sure the SS would leave them alone, if they would just leave the whales alone! For many, many years the vast majority of humans and nations have been counseling/asking/telling the Japanese to quit this farce of whale research but no, they just continue as they please, so it seems to me that the stupidity of the Japanese to continue this farce when their own people are not even that interested in eating whale meat is the root stupidity.

It remains to be seen what level of Japanese stupidity will finally result in them having to commit seppuku on this whaling issue. :eyebrow:
 
Here's a different video of a Japanese Whaling ship turning into a Sea Shepard ship.. (Previous Event) Notice the wakes.. :no: :D

YouTube - Whale Wars: The Steve Irwin collides with a Japanese Whaling Vessel


I disagree with whaling but these SS types are idiots. Deliberately turning the Steve Irwin into that Whaling ship was deserving of a harpoon into her screw(s), IMO.

I'd say this shows the mindset of the captains piloting SS boats...
 
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Only clear if you ignore the video evidence and base your opinion entirely on what Sea Shepherd said. Looking at the video's objectively can lead to no conclusion other than the Ady Gil deliberately put their boat in harms way.

And yet over the course of the last hundred or so posts most of the SB members in this thread better known for their ability to be objective have concluded just the opposite. Have you actually looked at the most recently posted new video links?

Here are 2 interesting things I found this morning.
Opinion of maritime expert
YouTube - Confirmation Japan's Whaling Vessel Caused The Ady Gil Collision


"Ady Gil" Last Moments
YouTube - Ady Gil: The Last Moments
 
I will reiterate.... After watching video from different vantage points....

You can re-iterate as much as you like, but repeating lies doesn't make them any more true.

As the Ady Gil accelerated, the Japanese whaling ship made a last-second correction to port to ensure that it rammed the Ady Gil squarely.

I would LOVE to know what you think the time to response to a helm command is on these boats? This isn't a high performance sports car, it is a 50m long lump of steel (491 dwt) in heavy swell with a single diesel engine. Have you ever piloted a boat of this class or are you talking out of your bottom again?


Last year the Japanese stopped to help find two Sea Shepherd crew members who had drifted away from the pack. In this incident, it is obvious even to people like you there was a Sea Shepherd support ship a couple of minutes away to pick up the crew from the disabled Ady Gil.
 
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