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So then what is diving ? If not breating air underwater ?
I am confused.
I thought that some part of SCUBA related to breathing underwater.

Of course some part of SCUBA relates to breathing under water. The rest of it is controling our position and movement in the water column while managing whatever other tasks may be required or problems.
You know in 20 years of diving I never got tired of hearing this, My way is the right way and you suck cuz you didn't learn what i think you should, Blabber.

Who said anything like that?
 
lol.

Isn't that one of the main points of contention brought against PADI/etc. in this thread?

That goes without saying for any certifing agency....except GUE...;)

o..did I just open a can of worms...:D

Stay off the bottom
 
That goes without saying for any certifing agency....except GUE...;)

o..did I just open a can of worms...:D

Stay off the bottom

I haven't taken classes from either but I suspect both NACD and NSS-CDS have the same "keep off the bottom" approach.
 
To the question "Jacques-Yves Cousteau co invented open circuit scub to get underwater and you needed PADI?" Did you know Jacques was a PADI Instructor! No really, he was someting link instructor number 4.

As to the training that PADI provides.

They provide a system of education that has pulled the diving industry out of the dark ages. Instructors use this system to teach rather than having to design their own system. I've been diving for years and do not know educational philsophy like these guys. The staff who design PADI's systems have masters or phds in educational design; I cannot speak for the other training orgs. most just make it up or copy PADI.

PADI has done more for the diving industry than any other org.

By the way, Jac did not invent the open open circuit reg. It was his friend, Jac only tested it. Also, an Australia invented the single hose regulator. Fact not fiction. Check the history books.
 
An open water dive after the first confined water dive? Don't make me laugh. I hardly see how any instructor is going to have someone go into the ocean without even having all of their skills taught and practiced first.


It did surprise me too, Tim. But it can happen with PADI OW class. I am not personally familiar with NAUI, but apparently, the entire OW curriculum can be carried out in the OW environment for NAUI based on another poster's experience.
 
I didn't realize this thread was alittle old until after I read into it abit. I'm not going to add much except to say what I was thinking as I was reading it. All of these boards, forums or whatever you want to call them are exactly the same. There is always someone or more than one, that have thousands of replys or original threads. These people can never let it go and are always "right" They must know everything, they've been members for a couple years and have 15 gazillion dives and 18 bazillion posts They always spend an hour picking apart someones post piece by piece and one uping them. I guess theres no point in this post either other than to say "I was just saying":D
 
Without PADI I may never have discovered Diving.

Your inability to discover diving, when its media portrayal is so ubiquitous, does not dictate the validity of the organization that issued you an engraved invitation.
 
To the question "Jacques-Yves Cousteau co invented open circuit scub to get underwater and you needed PADI?" Did you know Jacques was a PADI Instructor! No really, he was someting link instructor number 4.

As to the training that PADI provides.

They provide a system of education that has pulled the diving industry out of the dark ages. Instructors use this system to teach rather than having to design their own system. I've been diving for years and do not know educational philsophy like these guys. The staff who design PADI's systems have masters or phds in educational design; I cannot speak for the other training orgs. most just make it up or copy PADI.

PADI has done more for the diving industry than any other org.

By the way, Jac did not invent the open open circuit reg. It was his friend, Jac only tested it. Also, an Australia invented the single hose regulator. Fact not fiction. Check the history books.


Do you have any idea how ludicrous these statements are? Go to Sea Sabres Dive Site and click on the history link. See just how little PADI has to do with diving "coming out of the dark ages". Their system is not designed to create safe compentent "divers". They want to turn out as many "underwater tourists" as possible to make money. That is their goal. Make money. A Phd gets beaten by common sense, experience, and desire to impart knowledge any day. If any thing they have helped put more people in the water who should be doing anything other than scuba diving. I have seen it. It's why I could not in good conscience become a PADI Instructor. Too many rules and too much emphasis on bringing in the almighty dollar as quick as possible.
 
It did surprise me too, Tim. But it can happen with PADI OW class. I am not personally familiar with NAUI, but apparently, the entire OW curriculum can be carried out in the OW environment for NAUI based on another poster's experience.

That just amazes me. Granted, in candyland conditions, an open water dive is a cakewalk...but I doubt any of us thought so when we did our first open water dive. I sure as hell didn't, I felt so taskloaded that I couldn't even pay attention to anything on the tour...was too busy making sure I never lost sight of the instructor and DMs.

I didn't realize this thread was alittle old until after I read into it abit. I'm not going to add much except to say what I was thinking as I was reading it. All of these boards, forums or whatever you want to call them are exactly the same. There is always someone or more than one, that have thousands of replys or original threads. These people can never let it go and are always "right" They must know everything, they've been members for a couple years and have 15 gazillion dives and 18 bazillion posts They always spend an hour picking apart someones post piece by piece and one uping them. I guess theres no point in this post either other than to say "I was just saying":D

Two fun approaches to dealing with those kinds of posters is to either agree with them and say you're FOS, because it completely takes the wind out of their sails and they don't get the satisfaction of arguing with you and wasting your time, or you can just argue for the sake of arguing to piss them off.

Either way it's fun to screw with the know-it-alls. :)

Do you have any idea how ludicrous these statements are? Go to Sea Sabres Dive Site and click on the history link. See just how little PADI has to do with diving "coming out of the dark ages". Their system is not designed to create safe compentent "divers". They want to turn out as many "underwater tourists" as possible to make money. That is their goal. Make money. A Phd gets beaten by common sense, experience, and desire to impart knowledge any day. If any thing they have helped put more people in the water who should be doing anything other than scuba diving. I have seen it. It's why I could not in good conscience become a PADI Instructor. Too many rules and too much emphasis on bringing in the almighty dollar as quick as possible.

The funny thing is that PADI was started because of NAUI's unprofessionalism in canceling a dive show or whatever it was without telling anyone. I can't say whether PADI's in it for just the money now or not, it's not like I can read the minds of the owners (and unlike some of you guys I don't assume I know what their motives are), but they were started because they wanted a professional dive training agency to exist. Is that what PADI is now? Perhaps, perhaps not. But I think it has far more to do with the instructor than the agency. I know at least a few PADI instructors who could probably run circles around lots of NAUI, SSI, etc. instructors and I know one SSI instructor who's probably better than a lot of PADI instructors. You guys can argue that PADI's this money-grubbing leech all you want, but at the end of the day, you have no proof and we're tired of hearing the same whiny bull****. :lotsalove:
 

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