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Near-DIR diving: Are there DIR things you would probably never do?
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Adobo
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I know several purely recreational divers who follow the DIR system. Single tanks to recreational depths only. Some got there through open water then fundies/essentials. Others through mentoring. Why is that not a suitable "cradle"?
So? The diving I'm doing is in the here and now...
Why would you dive a system that has significant provisions for a piece (or pieces) of equipment you will never use? Your configuration may be prepared for that new addition, but you have to learn the knowledge and skills to use it. Having an open system should make you consider all facets of something new, as opposed to being rutted into one certain method. Your knowledge and skill is only good enough for the here and now, why don't we force people to train up through Deep Cave Scooter before handing them a single tank?
lamont
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Why do you care about this? If you don't want to dive your light in the left hand then don't. If you don't want to run the reel in the left hand then don't. I choose to dive this system because I gave up a long time ago trying to second guess it all and trying to guess where I'm going to wind up. The whole system just works and I got tired of thinking about stupid things like which hand to use for the reel or the light.
Try not to be so short sighted, it's about more then a light and a reel. I care because there are other people reading this thread and since all of you insist on posting your singular view of things, I think it's reasonable to present more then one side of things.
If you're tired of thinking, then DIR is the right choice for you.
If you're tired of thinking, then DIR is the right choice for you.
I'm not tired of thinking, but I don't find the need to reinvent the wheel, either. Some very smart people with a hell of a lot of diving experience in some pretty demanding settings came up with a system that they feel works well. In my experience so far, it does for me, too. I COULD insist on experimenting with a bunch of different ways of doing things and a bunch of different equipment, and that might be fun (and expensive), but settling on this way of doing things has found me a whole bunch of great buddies and a very comfortable way of diving. Works for me.
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Changing stuff around is expensive and it takes some "hard knocks" to understand its limitations. DIR as an equipment and procedural system has been vetted. The limits are generally known, the little things that can trip up a new system have either been found and eliminated or they have been recognized and their risks mitigated somehow. Or those issue just have to be recognized, eg. sidemount. I don't have any real need to reinvent the wheel. I appreciate being able to ask someone who's diving at my or higher levels how to either: manage what seems to be a new issue or manage a new peice of kit. There is a well trodden logical path ahead as far as I wish to go as long as it doesn't include sidemount, independent doubles, or a CCR. I have no need to exeriment in a cave or deco environment with something of my own invention which seemed to be a good idea but now when the caca is hitting the fan I discover has fatal flaws.
The side benefit is there are similarly trained and equipped buddies aorund the world that are an awesome resource. No other system has that. I rely on GUE and a handful of non-GUE instructors to do ~85% of the work getting these buddies up to speed as a giant team. I have pretty seemlessly intergrated with DIR teams up and down the west coast and MX. That's been great fun.
The side benefit is there are similarly trained and equipped buddies aorund the world that are an awesome resource. No other system has that. I rely on GUE and a handful of non-GUE instructors to do ~85% of the work getting these buddies up to speed as a giant team. I have pretty seemlessly intergrated with DIR teams up and down the west coast and MX. That's been great fun.
If GUE is only one of the certifying agencies that teaches the dir-system, then what are the other ones?
It seems that everyone who claims to be DIR but wasn´t trained by GUE or an ex-gue instructor is met with suspicion in the DIR-forum...If I were to say I took a dir-padi course in there I don´t think i´d be taken seriously...
that´s propably why the concept is so hard to get thru "peoples thick skulls", because you don´t act like you believe in that concept yourselves...
So what? I´ve pretty seemlessly integrated with teams in Florida, Mexico, Malta, the Red Sea and the Phillipines...Only a few of those people have been DIR and the vast majority haven´t...the difference is that my pool of potential buddies who I´ll accept as similarily equipped and trained is far greater than yours...
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