Diverite Rec Wing and Singles

[gclaudiu]

You are right, but is easier to achieve this in a donut shape cause is less prone to taco effect (unless is very big in size). Also moving the air from left to right can be achieved by adopting a slight head up or down position, easy to achieve from a horizontal position.

It may be a personal preference, but I'm usually in horizontal position or a bit head down when dive (more interested in the micro life) and i find it easier to vent it using the rear dump than the inflator hose. Also to be able to move the air from the righ side to left side you'll have to do a roll, etc in case of a U shape wing, please correct me if I'm wrong (sorry, i never tried any U shape wing...).

 

[schu1842]

I've been thinking about switching from my Seaquest Balance to a BP/W setup for single tank diving. Can anyone give me the approximate cost of the DSS and the OxyCheq rigs that have been discussed? Thanks/

 

[cool_hardware52]

I've been thinking about switching from my Seaquest Balance to a BP/W setup for single tank diving. Can anyone give me the approximate cost of the DSS and the OxyCheq rigs that have been discussed? Thanks/

Look here https://www.deepseasupply.com/index.php?page=rigs

The "configurator" will let you price out any combo of plate and wing and harness.

If you have questions about which combination would be best for your application let me know.

Tobin

 

[CompuDude]

You are right, but is easier to achieve this in a donut shape cause is less prone to taco effect (unless is very big in size). Also moving the air from left to right can be achieved by adopting a slight head up or down position, easy to achieve from a horizontal position.

It may be a personal preference, but I'm usually in horizontal position or a bit head down when dive (more interested in the micro life) and i find it easier to vent it using the rear dump than the inflator hose. Also to be able to move the air from the righ side to left side you'll have to do a roll, etc in case of a U shape wing, please correct me if I'm wrong (sorry, i never tried any U shape wing...).

The taco effect is a function of wing size vs. tank size, not really of donut wing vs. horseshoe.

The horseshoe is quite easy to move air around from one side to the other. You are right in that air trapped on one side needs to be moved farther to get out the vent, but other than that there is little difference between the two. And both function identically when using the inflator hose (which I rarely use except for initial descent).

I prefer a full circle/donut wing as well, which is why I use one. But I dove a horseshoe wing for some time before I picked up my current wing, and I really don't think there is all that much functional difference... it's a more subtle difference, as long as you have learned the ins and outs of each type.

 

[Patrick]

I've been thinking about switching from my Seaquest Balance to a BP/W setup for single tank diving. Can anyone give me the approximate cost of the DSS and the OxyCheq rigs that have been discussed? Thanks/

Prior to making a decsion, ask yourself these questions ...

Is the wing a 360 loop? All wings other than our 50# wing is a 360 loop.

If it is a 360 loop wing, do you have access to the bladder for inspection and/or repair? All OxyCheq wings (except the 30# Razor, a bladderless wing) has a zipper that allows you complete access to the bladder.

How thick is the inner bladder? OxyCheq has clear, 25 mil urethane bladders. It is clear so you can see if you have salt crystals of crud growing inside the bladder. Thiker urethane bladders result in higher ouncture and abrasion resistance.

Is the elbow off centered on the single cylinder wing? On single wings, our elbows are off centered so it does not interfere with the cylinder valve. On doubles, the elbow is centered (off centered on dual bladder/dual inflator).

How much urethane is under the outer shell? OxyCheq uses 5 ounces of urethane under the outer shell. Thicker urethane coating results in higher puncture resistance.

How wide is the separation between lobes? The lobes are 2" apart.

How wide is the wing? The OxyCheq 30# Mach V is 13.5" at the widest point when inflated resulting in very low drag.

Where are the materials made? OxyCheq wings are made from materials made in the USA. There are differences in materials made in the US vs outside the US.

Do I need a single tank adapter with the wing? No, all OxyCheq single cylinder wings have cam band slots and roll control. However, if desired, you can use a variety of single tank adapters.

All of our dealers are listed on our web site. I am sure someone on the list can recommend one of the dealers that will give you a great price.

Best regards,

Patrick Duffy
OxyCheq

 

[Waterskier1]

I enjoyed reading this thread, and I think it is great that some of the manufacturers are participating. I too am considering a BP/Wing. I currently have a DUI back inflate Eclipse. It seems to do a good job, but I have nothing to really compare it to, besides the rental equipment I used in OW cert.

Can someone explain why I would want to use an STA, other than to put weight on the plate? I am basing this on the wings having slots for Cam Bands, and the BP also. I guess there might be a bit more adjustment of the tank, but why else? I see most of the manufacturers sell them, but they also sell wings that don't need them. What effect does spacing the tank away from the plate have? Pro's and Con's? I do understand the need if the wing was not designed for use without an STA, but it seems most single tank wings have the slots.

 

[Splitlip]

For me, the STA makes switching the BPW from cylinder to cylinder much easier. It makes the BPW a stable single piece unit.

I don't dive from a a truck tail gate nor a picnic table. It makes a difference on a cramped rolling boat deck.

Also allows the use of wings from any manufacturer with any manufacturer's plate. So long as they each have the standard 11" hole spacing.

My STA weighs 12oz.

 

[Patrick]

I enjoyed reading this thread, and I think it is great that some of the manufacturers are participating. I too am considering a BP/Wing. I currently have a DUI back inflate Eclipse. It seems to do a good job, but I have nothing to really compare it to, besides the rental equipment I used in OW cert.

Can someone explain why I would want to use an STA, other than to put weight on the plate? I am basing this on the wings having slots for Cam Bands, and the BP also. I guess there might be a bit more adjustment of the tank, but why else? I see most of the manufacturers sell them, but they also sell wings that don't need them. What effect does spacing the tank away from the plate have? Pro's and Con's? I do understand the need if the wing was not designed for use without an STA, but it seems most single tank wings have the slots.

Some STAs lift the cylinder off the plate slightly more than others. Our Light Weight STA and Mini STAs (even lighter) lift the cylinder off the plate less than 3/16". Some mfgs have plates with a deeper profile that lift the cylinder off the diver's back more than that. In our case, we have a very low profile plate as well.

Our Mach V wings work with or without STAs.

Best regards,

Patrick
oxyCheq
http://oxycheq.com

 

[Waterskier1]

Some STAs lift the cylinder off the plate slightly more than others. Our Light Weight STA and Mini STAs (even lighter) lift the cylinder off the plate less than 3/16". Some mfgs have plates with a deeper profile that lift the cylinder off the diver's back more than that. In our case, we have a very low profile plate as well.

Our Mach V wings work with or without STAs.

Best regards,

Patrick
oxyCheq
http://oxycheq.com

I'm still missing something here. If if only lifts it 3/16" why add it? Is it the spacing that is desired, or does it stiffen something (can't really see that with a SS Plate). I saw you Mach V wing works with or w/o and thought most of your singles did too (but I only looked closely at the Mach V since it was discussed so favorably here). Why would one add an STA (thick or thin) to your backplate (Al or SS) and Mach V wing?

 

[cool_hardware52]

I'm still missing something here. If if only lifts it 3/16"

When using a conventional STA there are three things that add to the "stack height" that raise the the cylinder away from the divers back, the camband, the head of the carriage bolt that secures the sta to the back plate and the thickness of the metal use to to make the sta itself.

Resin reinforce webbing is about .090" thick. The head on a 5/16 carriage bolt is .176 and most sta's are made from 14 gauge or thicker SS. 14 gauge = about .075"

Camband .090"
Carriage bolt head .176"
14 gauge STA .075"

Theoretical minimum offset due to a STA .341" Less than 3/16" is simply not possible with conventional STA's

Tobin