Wing and Weights

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I dive with six pounds of weight in addition to the 5 lb backplate, with my 3 mil suit in warm salt water. This trip, that was 2 lb in a pocket on either side of the upper camband, and my can light battery. That was just right and trimmed me out perfectly. With that little weight, and that thin a suit, I'm just not worried about anything being easily ditchable.
 
Did you ever get a can light? I thought you were looking for one sometime back. If so, that might be all that you need.

Get a pair of cam band weight pockets... I like the Halcyon ones but others say good things about the XS pockets.

An STA might add just the right amount of weight and it would put it in the midline... but that would sorta defeat some of the reasons that you got your DSS rig.

Ankle weights... either around your valve or zip tied to your plate. Not very cool.

Thread a couple of little weights onto your cam band(s). Also not very cool.

The lightest DSS weight plates are a little over 5# a pair. I think that MIGHT make you a bit too heavy, but maybe not. They might work out perfectly or maybe they would add just a few pounds more than you need... but being a few pounds heavy is not really a big deal... sure is better than being a few pounds too light.

I probably can come up with some more... hang on...
 
Nothing wrong with a weight belt.

P-weight. You probably won't be too excited about pouring lead, though. I'm not sure how you would make it work with a DSS plate without an STA, anyways.

OK... I'm runnin' out of ideas.
 
LavaSurfer:
OK, Got my new DSS wing and love it. Getting it all rigged the way "I" like it and have one question.

Do I use my weight belt for ditchable weight or do I use some kind of pocket. I am assuming I will need about 4# in Warm Water but maybe 6#. The Plate is 6# and I dive with 8-10 with my jacket BC.

The Belt should obviously go on last as I have a crotch strap but some kind of pocket might be more convinent

Any opinions would be appreciated

LavaSurfer,

Glad to hear you like the gear.

What I recommend for new BP&W users is to first determine your total weighting needs. The pool or other confined setting is great, edge of the dock etc.

For single tank divers using a 5 mil or thicker wetsuit I set people up so they are neutral (eye level) at the surface with no gas in their wing. This usually works pretty well, and allows a 15 ft stop with a near empty tank, because the wetsuit is compressed at 15 ft. (Doing the weight check at the surface with a full tank is much easier than the mythical 500 psi @ 15 ft. Never seems to be a bag 'o' spare lead at 15 ft.) If you are in little or no exposure suit you will need to add a few pounds after finding "Neutral" this is necessary to offset the gas consumed.

Once you find your total weighting, for example plate + 6 lbs, or whatever, you need to see where this 6lbs neess to be located for best trim. More pool time. Having some temp weights like drop weights or ankle weights you can move around, hang on the neck of the tank, zip tie to the sides of the plate etc. is a handy thing when working on trim. I start by setting the tank height where I can best reach the valve, and adjust weight position from there.

I personally prefer the pouch weight belts from XS Scuba. They are easy to add or remove weight from, and you can "ditch" one pocket at a time. I wear mine under the harness, you might choose not to.

I"ve tried adding pouches to the waist belt of the rig, and don't really like it, I know others have done so and report success. I like having at least a little of my ballast on my person, it makes donning and doffing in the water easier, as I'm not "pinned to the surface" by a buoyant exposure suit, and the waist straps of the rig aren't hanging straight down. Might depend on the type of diving you do.

If you find that having 5-8 lbs more up over your lungs our bolt on weight plates are one solution. If you find you can get trim with a 6 lbs weight belt, do it, Weight belts are cheaper than Stainless Steel.

BTW our medium plates are 5lbs, the large are 6 and the small 4.

As mentioned before you are very likely to loose more than the weight of the plate from your belt because most Jacket BC's are positive by 3-5 lbs.

Hope this helps,


Tobin
 
Stephen Ash:
Oh... here's a shot of a DSS rig with the XS pockets on the waistbelt...

http://www.scubaboard.com/showthread.php?t=137234

That looks pretty good.

I just bought two xs pockets. I like the idea I can move them anywhere I want.
Nice idea.

I also just bought me a new reg :D
The hard cores will laugh at me but I breathed off one and loved it.
I got the Mares V32 Proton Ice in the pretty blue model!
 
cool_hardware52:
LavaSurfer,



As mentioned before you are very likely to loose more than the weight of the plate from your belt because most Jacket BC's are positive by 3-5 lbs.

Hope this helps,


Tobin

Tobin, Thanks a bunch!
It is great gear and well built.
You should have seen the guys at the pool drooling all over it.
It took me 10 minutes to wash off the saliva. :D

I have the medium so it would be 5#

I know my old BC was somewhat positive and it has a hollow plastic back plate. If it 4 lbs positive then I may not need any weight at all. In the pool I sunk like a rock and was still negative with 700 lbs so it’s possible that I may only need a pound or two at most in SW. I dive with a skin only but in Hawaii I may need a shorty so the XS pockets would be easy to adjust and I will still have my weight belt just in case.

Your right about the 15 ft and 500 lb thing. Never any weight around and if you hand weight to someone they look at you like your nuts but that how I finally got my BC dialed in. I carried 3 extra 2 pounders and handed them off till I was right on.
 

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