When To Abandon A Buddy....

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jsado

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I was diving with a buddy the other day. We were at about 55 ft when suddenly she started an out of control ascent to the surface.... I tried to get her to dump her air but she pretty much rocketed to the surface. I believed she was ok, so I stayed at depth and worked my way up slowly.

So, what if we were at 100 ft and she wasn't ok? What if she had a medical emergency, panicked and made an uncontrolled ascent to the surface? I assume THIS would be a proper time to temporarily abandon your buddy, right? Would you still ascend at a normal rate and do a safety stop?
 
Essentially, this is covered on the Rescue Diver course.

It is a case-by-case decision, in which your primary responsibility is to protect your own safety.

If you maintain your own safety, you will be in a better position to eventually assist your buddy. If you add yourself to the casualty list, then you can't help them and only serve to further divide the resources of whoever else gets involved in the rescue.
 
I don't think there's ever a good reason to abandon your buddy, but your primary concern has to be a safe ascent. 2 injured divers on the surface are worse than one. Just for clarification could you define your idea of "abandon"?
 
If you are diving the PADI RDP, it is no stop or no decompression diving. A safety stop is just that, meaning designed for extra caution to slow your ascent rate. Highly recommend and good practice but under the right situations to assist may be be worth forgoing. At no instance should you abandon a safe ascent rate as others have stated two injured divers will only aggravate the situation. Signal your buddy your intention and both ascend safely.
 
I wouldn't put myself at too much risk if the buddy had already rocketed away. I would ascend at a much higher rate than my norm. I'd go up the first 15mts very fast, between 20 & 30mts/min, start to slow so that I was doing about 10mts/min at the 10mt mark & maintain that to the surface. No safety stop.

That's what I did when I had a similar experience from 25mts anyway.
 
---better to have only 1 death vs. 2--------IMO.....NO ONE can help anyone if you're dead.....
 
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I was diving with a buddy the other day. We were at about 55 ft when suddenly she started an out of control ascent to the surface.... I tried to get her to dump her air but she pretty much rocketed to the surface. I believed she was ok, so I stayed at depth and worked my way up slowly.

So, what if we were at 100 ft and she wasn't ok? What if she had a medical emergency, panicked and made an uncontrolled ascent to the surface? I assume THIS would be a proper time to temporarily abandon your buddy, right? Would you still ascend at a normal rate and do a safety stop?

In the situation you describe, there is a difference between "abandoning" your buddy and making a safe and prudent ascent which would put you in a better position to assist once you re-established contact with them.
 
Greetings jsado and this is a great question that arrises a bunch of topics.
It would be well worth the time to research and learn form this incident. I have found it necessary to evaluate every buddy I dive with and strategically place myself where I can be of the most assistance if needed. This means at times I am in reach of their inflator at all times, or have contact via. D ring, pocket,etc. This is usually only for the first few warm up dives. It is also very important to keep dive plans very simple, shallow, and not task loading. Some times being a good buddy starts before you get into the water. Proper weighting , weight checks, fin pivots, just taking the time at the beginning of the dive to gain neutral buoyancy can make a dive much more enjoyable.
Not everyone I dive with has issues but we need to be prepared to handle what comes up it goes with the territory.
I have went after divers ascending and descending and have found one must be very careful to protect your welfare. Keep them close so you can put your hands on them to offer assistance. In the event you described it sounded as though all was well once you got to the surface. It is always important to make very sure once a uncontrolled ascent has occurred that you access the diver to ensure a lung expansion injury has taken place.
A Rescue coarse would cover these circumstances and much more. It would be well worth the time and effort to take the coarse, it makes you a better buddy, a better diver in general. I learned a tremendous amount and gained more practical skills than I thought possible!
I hope this advice helps and I hope your buddy is well.
In the event of a real rescue situation which is covered in the class you as the rescuer have to ensure your safety to provide aid. No exceptions! If you both are injured, one rescue turned into two. Take the class you will not be sorry.
CamG Keep diving....keep training....keep learning!
 
Other situations are:

An insta-buddy where the dive plan is 65-70 feet and they immediately drop to 100' to 110' after hitting the water. Do you follow them?

What about the buddy who enters the wreck when you have clearly stated in the briefing that you will not do a wreck penetration.

I have had both.
 
Other situations are:

An insta-buddy where the dive plan is 65-70 feet and they immediately drop to 100' to 110' after hitting the water. Do you follow them?

What about the buddy who enters the wreck when you have clearly stated in the briefing that you will not do a wreck penetration.

I have had both.

In the first scenario, I'd probably be divining EAN36 if my plan was to only go 60'-70' so following to 110' or deeper is pretty much out of the question. If I couldn't stop my buddy before that, I guess I would wait as deep as I can go trying to maintain visual contact if possible.

The second scenario, I suppose I would wait at the entrance pissed off, hoping they come back out. I don't carry a reel, nor am I experienced/trained for any penatration. I certainly wouldn't be following my insta-buddy in to the wreck.

To answer the OP, yes I think there are definately times it's okay to abandon your buddy. They should know better to be putting your life in danger as well as ther own. However, in the case you described it probably wouldn't hurt to do a CESA to make sure your buddy is okay. Each situation is different, but the bottom line as mentioned by others is that two casualties is far worse than one.
 

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