What person of qualification can i dive with???

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Hi, my son and I are both training for ocean diver qualification and have been told by our club that we can dive together when qualified, either with the rest of the club , or on our own as a pair as long as we inform the club diving officer and get the dive plan approved. PwH

See the link to the thread this guy posted on the BSAC forum - although getting the dive plan approved by the DO would satisfy the marshal criteria the issue of where "..other divers, capable of providing assistance and rescue are at the surface" isnt neccesarily met by that. Theres debate on there as to whether inland sites with rescue staff meet this or not.

This is a Troll

BSAC boys(and girls) allways know where they stand.It is part of their training.
I know for sure that warm water PADI dives are generaly not welcome in their "club".

Ronj

Actually your post reads more like a classic troll than anything else. Lashing out opinion with no facts or basis just attempting to provoke.

 

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Well you CAN go off and dive with whoever you want just as anyone else can but you would be outside the BSAC recommendations, it wouldnt be an official branch dive, the BSAC insurance (and probably any other) would be invalid and i know for a fact that inland sites wont allow 2 ODs to turn up and dive like that.

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Not that I've dived in a quarrry for years, but how on earth would anyone at an inland site know they've got 2 OD together anyway?

 

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Not that I've dived in a quarrry for years, but how on earth would anyone at an inland site know they've got 2 OD together anyway?

I mean official inland diving centres such as Stoney Cove, the National Diving centre and so on. Anywhere regulated will check the qualification record books or face the wrath of the HSE.

 

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I mean official inland diving centres such as Stoney Cove, the National Diving centre and so on. Anywhere regulated will check the qualification record books or face the wrath of the HSE.

Fair enough I 'spose. I've only ever done one dive at Stoney and that was back in the 80's - no great desire to go back, although if I've got to find a c-card to go, I'm really not going to bother - what ever happened to personal responsibility

 

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Dont think its a personal responsibility thing, i think its more due to insurance. If a diver does injure himself/someone else and is diving outside the recommendations their insurance will be void.

From a dive centre point of view, letting someone dive accepting their own responsibility despite qualification not being of a required standard opens them up to legal action if someone goes wrong and sanctions off the HSE.

Unfortunately its an increasingly sue-someone minded society. The net result is everyone has to cover their backs first and everything else secondly. Example being the diver magazine poll out this month where roughly 50% of instructors said the threat of litigation was actively putting them off training divers.


FWIW ive never dived any fresh water site but i do know of people being turned away from NDC Chepstow for exactly the reasons i gave in the above post.

 

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Shame really. I instruct for Scotsac, and while doing so I'm covered by their insurance. At one time I was a bsac member, but diving a rb it became increasingly difficult to do so within a club, so I gave up my membership eventually
However for my own diving outwith the club, I carry Dan insurance, but I'm beginning to wonder whether or not it's worth it or not, in the UK I'm covered anyway in the event of a mishap as far as recompression etc goes, and we choose not to dive as strict buddys, taking responsibility for ourselves, so the buddy thing doesn't really apply there either