Wakatobi vs Banda vs Alor

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We're looking at some Indo alternatives. Done a fair bit of research so far but thoughts welcome on following. Tips on Wakatobi travel.. getting there, and actual diving (no Wakatobi resort info please). Banda, easier to get to, but what's it like diving, how far is the travel each day ( btw like reefs, big stuff, small, and even a little muck, good walls). Alor..I've kinda figured it out, has everything but it's just more expensive, so really just trying to weigh up cost vs quality of diving. We've done RA/Misool/Komodo/North Sulawesi/Bali. Have I missed any new good alternatives?
 
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We're looking at some Indo alternatives. Done a fair bit of research so far but thoughts welcome on following. Tips on Wakatobi travel.. getting there, and actual diving (no Wakatobi resort info please). Banda, easier to get to, but what's it like diving, how far is the travel each day ( btw like reefs, big stuff, small, and even a little muck, good walls). Alor..I've kinda figured it out, has everything but it's just more expensive, so really just trying to weigh up cost vs quality of diving. We've done RA/Misool/Komodo/North Sulawesi/Bali. Have I missed any new good alternatives?
I think it depends how long you're away and if the trip is only about diving. For me, Alor and Raja are the jewels in the crown of Indonesian diving — I like Alor so much that I'm starting my divesaster there in a few days. In terms of places you might not have considered, I love Maratua, Kakaban, and Sangalaki too! I guess there's also the question of where you've been in the Bali area. My favourite sites are in Candi Dasa (Taked, Tepekong), even though so few people talk about it, and Blue Corner in Lembongan is great too. Can easily combine those with Lombok too if you want to mix it up. Belongas in Lombok is tricky to get to and has little infrastructure, but some of the sites are awesome. I'm a big fan of Gili Sarang and Manta Pot, which I prefer to The Cathedral and The Magnet (a bit hit and miss, and the visibility is usually rubbish). On the other side, Blue Marlin in Kuta goes to some nice sites, like Gamechanger (lovely coral). But the west is better. One thing to note is that several of those areas are tricky dives. The currents in Alor are VERY unpredictable and can be sketchy. Belongas isn't as bad as people make it out, just LOTS of surge. Can get very strong currents at some sites at Maratua and Kakaban too, as well as at Blue Corner of course (all a bit stronger than Komodo, if only in my experience). I've only done Banda briefly by liveaboard. It was good, but not my favourite. I'm afraid I haven't been to Wakatobi yet, so can't comment on that. Have heard it's nice, but not the best of the bunch. Hope that helps!
 
I think it depends how long you're away and if the trip is only about diving. For me, Alor and Raja are the jewels in the crown of Indonesian diving — I like Alor so much that I'm starting my divesaster there in a few days. In terms of places you might not have considered, I love Maratua, Kakaban, and Sangalaki too! I guess there's also the question of where you've been in the Bali area. My favourite sites are in Candi Dasa (Taked, Tepekong), even though so few people talk about it, and Blue Corner in Lembongan is great too. Can easily combine those with Lombok too if you want to mix it up. Belongas in Lombok is tricky to get to and has little infrastructure, but some of the sites are awesome. I'm a big fan of Gili Sarang and Manta Pot, which I prefer to The Cathedral and The Magnet (a bit hit and miss, and the visibility is usually rubbish). On the other side, Blue Marlin in Kuta goes to some nice sites, like Gamechanger (lovely coral). But the west is better. One thing to note is that several of those areas are tricky dives. The currents in Alor are VERY unpredictable and can be sketchy. Belongas isn't as bad as people make it out, just LOTS of surge. Can get very strong currents at some sites at Maratua and Kakaban too, as well as at Blue Corner of course (all a bit stronger than Komodo, if only in my experience). I've only done Banda briefly by liveaboard. It was good, but not my favourite. I'm afraid I haven't been to Wakatobi yet, so can't comment on that. Have heard it's nice, but not the best of the bunch. Hope that helps!
Very helpful, thanks. Some of your thoughts I've looked into a bit, and will some more. We are usually gone a month, and from what I hear Alor is front runner for next year, timing with hammerheads maybe. We like above water stuff as well. We also mix it with a destination that's easier travel wise, maybe Komodo (not been for a while), and I hear Flores is interesting. We usually finish in Bali, so that advise is useful too. Just need to wait on the flights coming out, but for now central Raja next month, and Sulawesi, can't wait. Ohh, Misool is still my favourite, but long days in a boat when you are land based! Thanks again.
 
Sounds good! Hammerheads in Alor by no means guaranteed, but there's a small chance at several sites (Munaseli, etc). And there's not much to do around Alor (I'm in Kupang as I type this, haha). Always the option to cross into East Timor though! And yeah, some lovely places in Flores! Anyway, enjoy the trip!
 
On another thread I said that Wakatobi is not recommended for a first visit to Indonesia for diving, and @CF L had asked why. Note that info is before pandemic.

I flew into Wangi-wangi (the 'Wa' in Wakatobi) but the main dive sites are further afield so will require hours of daily boat rides from Wanci (capital city of Wakatobi, in Wangi-wangi Island). There are several sites around Wangi-wangi but local NGO staff said other places would be better. But anyway you could dive and stay at Wanci. This hotel is probably the nicest (and has dive shop on site) - I didn't stay here, just had dinner.

I ended up diving out of Hoga Island with a crew from OpWall and stayed at a homestay. It was arranged spur of the moment through the grapevine (was there for work).

From Wangi-wangi I took a public boat to Kaledupa Island (the "Ka" in Wakatobi), about 2 hours. I was picked up at Kaledupa by a small boat, then it was about 10min to Hoga.
[Alternatively I hear you can fly into Bau-bau and take a boat to Kaledupa]

At Hoga, everything was pretty basic and not vacation-pampering level. But the diving was fantastic and the crew very knowledgeable as they run the dive op at OpWall (up to 300 tanks can go out in a day at height of summer session - probabaly the largest dive op in Indo). Sites were 10-20min by boat. Huge schools of fish (barracuda, tuna), many turtles, some sharks, healthy corals, seeing all the Bajau people do their thing out in the water. Did a couple of night dives from shore. I also splurged on a trip out to Tomia (where Wakatobi Resort is based), about 2 hours roundtrip from Hoga (2x60hp engines). It was ok but nothing that couldn't be seen 10-20 min from Hoga, dive wise. But I wanted to see the rest of the archipelago. Very nice boat ride. At one point had to pust the boat w/ pole through mangroves due to low tide.

While everything was basic, the team that hosted me was used to catering to hundreds of foreign students who come to the island for their summer course with OpWall. The dive crew particularly was involved in many research projects (resulting in probably hundreds if thesis/dissertations over the years) so they are VERY knowledgable.

On land you could visit the bigger island e.g. Kaledupa was interesting. Visited several weavers and bought lots of handwoven cloths. You could also visit the Bajau villages (I didn't do this).

The government website for Hoga says there are two resorts. Tripadvisor has a recent review and seems this is the Hoga Island Dive Resort. The other one must be thi:, Hoga Dive Resort. I didn't stay at either (stayed at a homestay).

Overall I enjoyed myself, would go again. But Hoga is a bit out of the way even for Indonesia, and wouldn't recommend for those visiting for the first time. Facilities are very basic, people generally don't speak English. It's a bit harder to arrange than Alor.
 
I think you have to fly into baubau now to get to wakatobi as the airlines contract has ended in wangi wangi

I would say it's more of a pain to get to wakatobi than Alor. I haven't been to Banda Neira yet.

Alor is where it's at imo. I'm sure Banda is fantastic as well especially in season & full moon / hammers
 

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