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TStrick

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I recently purchased a Canon A620 w/housing for an upcoming live aboard trip to Palau. Now I am by no means a professional photographer but I do have an eye for a well taken photo and I would like to be able to show the family some decent pics when I get home.

Has anyone had any experience with the A620 with no external flash and were you happy with the results?

If you do recommend an external flash which one?

Thanks in advance...
TStrick
 
Hey TStrick, there have a multitude of threads here about using the Canon A610/Canon A620 with an external strobe..

I would say based on my experience of shooting a Canon A610 without a strobe, that it can take great pictures using just manual white balance, but that really depends on the clarity/visibility and depth of the water that you're diving in...

Have a look at the following threads for more info on using a strobe with this camera.

http://www.scubaboard.com/showthread.php?t=144418&highlight=A620
http://www.scubaboard.com/showthread.php?t=128409&highlight=A620
http://www.scubaboard.com/showthread.php?t=132089&highlight=A620
http://www.scubaboard.com/showthread.php?t=135807&highlight=A620

Also if you look back a few pages in the general underwater photography forum you can see photos that I and other A6xx users have taken.

Hope this helps :)
 
It doesn't matter what camera you use. Water filters out light the deeper you go, so if you want to photograph colors you will need a flash. The flash thats built into any given camera does not have enough distance bettween it and the lense. Therefor a built in flash will light up all the particulate matter in front of the lense and cause real problems with back scatter. What you need is a tray that screws into the tripod mount, a strobe arm and a strobe. This will give you the seperation you require. I've been using an A520 in the WP-DC60 housing. I logged into the B+H photo and got a Fantasea set up-- strobe, 2 strobe arms, tray, focusing light and a fiber optic cable to trigger the strobe. The system works well. Before you go on your dream trip, do several dives with the system and learn how to use it. You wouldn't want to miss that shot of the giant shark eating your dive buddy now would ya??? Realisticly, strobes and underwater cameras go hand and hand. If your going to get decent results your going to need one. So, pick one up. You'll be glad you did.

Jim
 
I've got the A520, not the A620, but they're similar. I've been to Palau; a lot of the shooting you're going to do is going to be wide angle with a lot of ambient light. If you can get really close to your target (6' or less), strobes will be great. But, if you're at Blue Corner or Pelilui Express, you're going to use a reef hook and strap in. You probably won't get that close to your subjects, and you'll be in better shape using white balance on dives like that. You'd need a really long strobe arm to avoid backscatter. During the day, you'll probably get nice stuff without a strobe anyhow. The Palau photos in my gallery didn't use white balance and used an S50, with a big heaping piece of post processing. For those, I'm not wishing I had had strobes, I'm wishing I had taken the time to get good with white balance (which I did right before I flooded my S50 housing).

With the A520, there are shots in my So. Cal album that used manual white balance as deep as 70 feet, and I got pretty good color between the manual white balance and post processing (the Ruby-E wreck shots). I would think the A620 would be better than my A520, its got the digic2 processor. If you're going to night dive with the camera, of course you'll need a strobe (sorry, no recommendations for the Canon, I use a C5050 with a Nikonos when I'm using a strobe, and use my A520 strobeless). During the day, you may be able to get by with the internal strobe for macro, and white balance for everything else. A lot of the dives are wall drift dives, so strobes for shots of coral and barrel sponges would probably benefit. You'll also have a few cave dives (Blue Holes, Chandelier Cave, maybe Saies Tunnel) - not much ambient light, you'll need strobes to light the foreground and then set the appropriate settings to get the backdrop. If you can afford the strobes (like the Fantasea setup suggested), get 'em, you won't regret it. Just keep in mind that it may not always be appropriate to have them firing.
 
jpomerantz:
I have the A620 with a strobe and swear by it - really helps with the colors above the settings especially under 40-60 feet as well as backscatter. here are some of mine:

http://www.bluextseadiving.com/gallery/?album=Jay_Pomerantz__May_2006


Hi Jay. Nice photos! Using a A620 myself with the Canon housing, w/o an external strobe. What are you using for an external strobe on your A620? Would also like to know if your using the Canon or Ikelite Housing, and what tray and arm combo you are using. Any problems with compatibility, and did you have to modify anything to get them to work together? Thanks for your help.

Best regards -- Mach
 
Jay excellent shots, your not shooting auto are you? some excellent shots, especially that green thing that seems to be an anemone. Are you using a macro lens or just setting the macro mode on the camera?

Thanks,
AIC
 
I have a strobe (and limited skills) and find i get better pictures without it when there is plenty of light available (using white balance)...

having one stobe can introduce more shadow problems than having none...

Generally i use the strobe below 30' and not above... good ambient light however can be hard to find in the pacific northwest. You may find success deeper if in the tropics.

All of this is only true when taking pictures of fairly still creatures and scenes... as soon as things start moving i need the strobe.

Scott
 

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