Suunto Dive Manager - Violations

[gNats]

Hello,

I have a few violations on a recent dive log that displays in the Dive Manager software.

I'm not sure why I have a violation and a review of the help file doesn't explain what the violation symbol represents.

Does anyone have any further information on how I can identify what the exact violation is?

It was recorded within the first 20 seconds of the dive at 13 feet. Possibly I was descending too fast? I didn't have any equilization problems during the descent, so in my book, it wasn't too fast.

I dive with the Cobra.

thanks
gNats

 

[wardric]

Was it a first dive or a successive one?

What does the symbol looks like? Is it a red triangle?

 

[gNats]

It is a red triangle, with an exclamation point in the center.

It was on the 2nd dive of the day - a two tank boat dive with 37 min surface interval between dives.

As I said, it was within the first 20 seconds, at 13 feet, so I can't see how I really earned the violation.

This was on Day 5 of a 5 day dive trip. I had the violation show up in another dive log.

The other dive was on Day 4. It is registered as "Dive 3" in the day, but it was really a continuation of dive 2. I had to surface with my buddy and the surface time was just over 5 minutes so the computer logged it as a new dive. This violation (same symbol) was also in the first 20 seconds and at 11 ft.

Any assistance you can give me would be great.

N

 

[mikemill]

When you hover your cursor over it what does it say?

 

[gNats]

When you hover your cursor over it what does it say?

Violation.

No information when you right-mouse click and double-clicking does nothing.

 

[wardric]

I'm back from Cuba. Did 2 dives a day for 5 days. I also have this red triangle at the beginning of dives # 6, 8 and 10 of the trip. These were all second dives of the day. What I believe is that it's probably related to tissue saturation at the start of the dive. It's not the first time this happens to me. All the time on trips with many dives. I'll research it a bit more.

btw, I have a Suunto Vyper.

 

[gNats]

I'm back from Cuba. Did 2 dives a day for 5 days. I also have this red triangle at the beginning of dives # 6, 8 and 10 of the trip. These were all second dives of the day. What I believe is that it's probably related to tissue saturation at the start of the dive. It's not the first time this happens to me. All the time on trips with many dives. I'll research it a bit more.

btw, I have a Suunto Vyper.

thank you in advance for your research. I never hit a computer "deco" violation or any other nonsense during the dives, and with the exception of the last day two-tank boat dive, all surface intervals were in excess of 2 hours.

I kept a close eye on the deco limits and CBTs on my Cobra during each dive because I knew we were diving aggressively. My buddy and I both breath easily, and were pulling 60 minute dives on less than 2000psi of air.

 

[wardric]

thank you in advance for your research. I never hit a computer "deco" violation or any other nonsense during the dives, and with the exception of the last day two-tank boat dive, all surface intervals were in excess of 2 hours.

I kept a close eye on the deco limits and CBTs on my Cobra during each dive because I knew we were diving aggressively. My buddy and I both breath easily, and were pulling 60 minute dives on less than 2000psi of air.

Our surface intervals were about an hour and I still have a lot of tissue saturation (slow tissues) before the second dive of the day for dives 6, 8 and 10.

btw, you could have a deco situation with the dive manager without having been in one during the dive. Remember your computer is working on a continuous basis but he records max depth at 10 or 20 second intervals (mine is set at 10). So the sdm is a bit less precise. I've had this situation happen to me on previous trips.

 

[wardric]

Ok. According to my vyper manual, the triangle with the ! is the dive attention symbol. It will appear on your computer after some dives. It indicates that you should prolong your surface interval time.

In the computer logbook, when you review the dive, the dive attention symbol will appear if the dive was started while symbol was displayed. So I guess that sdm will display the symbol for the same reason.

I would have liked Suunto to give the basis on why the SI should be prolonged (% saturation, etc.) but I found nothing else.

Anyway, hope this helped.

 

[gNats]

thanks, It does help. I will have to pay attention to the symbol on the computer itself and see if I notice it.

I am also going to contact Suunto customer service and see if I cannot get more information. If I do, I'll be sure to post to this thread.