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Tigerscuba

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I am instructor and recently had a prospective student approach me about lessons. He is a professional athlete and asked me of the dangers of combining diving and steroids. I have no knowledge of them and suggested he ask his doc. He returned and stated that the doc had no answer. Should I just turn him away or will he be ok.....I'm afraid if I cant give him a proper answer he'll go somwhere else and not advise them of his usage of steroids..
 
Steroids are useful for treating specific problems. Your implication is that this candidate is using steriods for other than medical reasons - a dangerous, ultimately damaging practice. Such a short-term view of priorities isn't consistent with a mature attitude towards anything, diving included. Personally I'd discourage diving as an activity for this person.
Feel free to share my comments with him.
Rick
 
I highly doubt steroids would have any ill effects in combination with diving.

Make sure he isn't taking anything else though. You didn't mention what sport he's involved with, but If he's into preofessional body-building chances are steroids are the most mild "supplements" he's using.
 
Rick Murchison once bubbled...
Steroids are useful for treating specific problems. Your implication is that this candidate is using steriods for other than medical reasons - a dangerous, ultimately damaging practice. Such a short-term view of priorities isn't consistent with a mature attitude towards anything, diving included.
Rick
As always the two factors to consider when looking at any individual's fitness to dive are

1) Does the applicant's medical (or psychological) condition cause him to be an unacceptable risk to himself or others?

2) Do the affects of any medication cause him to be an unacceptable risk to himself or others?

The BSAC are of the opinion that anyone taking prescribed oral steroids is unfit to dive for two main reasons. Firstly the underlying medical condition requiring such treatment is usually an advanced inflammatory condition, such as arthrits or asthma. Secondly as they affect the immune response and the body's ability to cope with stress they present an unacceptable risk in such an alien environment. I do not think that such a blanked ban is really very helpful for the reason given by Tigerscuba and there may be examples where a diving physician may consider the risk is acceptable for a certain patient but I would strongly advise caution.

I would not put the "recreational" use of anabolic steroids as strongly as Rick but he has a point.:doctor:
 
Tigerscuba once bubbled...
I am instructor and recently had a prospective student approach me about lessons. He is a professional athlete and asked me of the dangers of combining diving and steroids. I have no knowledge of them and suggested he ask his doc. He returned and stated that the doc had no answer. Should I just turn him away or will he be ok.....I'm afraid if I cant give him a proper answer he'll go somwhere else and not advise them of his usage of steroids..

There are 2 classes of steroids. There are no known adverse side effects associated with steroids and diving. However, these medications taken over a long time at high doses can cause changes in the body that could have adverse effects on diving.

If started within 1 year, most of these notes apply.

Catabolic steroids [e.g. hydrocortisone] are used to treat reactions such as eczema, stings, and bites, or disease like asthma. The drug is often given topically or ingested. A major issue with diving is the disease that the drug is being used for treatment. That would be of concern. For topical use there are few concerns, but for systemic diseases, like asthma or lupus, it would depend on the individual case.

Anabolic steroids [e.g. testosterone] would be of concern similarly, its not the drug per se at depth but the reason for taking it, its doses, and the long term effects on the body. Among problems, it causes heart disease, hypertension, and most concerningly, irritability and a tendency to violent rages within a few months of use. Such mental instabilities at depth could be fatal. In rarer cases, a diver could take an anabolic steroid to replace deficiencies and this poses little hazard.

Take home message:

Steroid use requires clearance from the user's physician prior to diving
 
As your inquiry is more of a medical nature than one dealing with the scientific aspects of decompression, I have taken the liberty of moving it to the Diving Medicine forum. Doctor Deco will still see it.

I have responded to this question in the past, but will not repeat myself here as you've already received some very excellent responses.

I will only reinforce what Saturation has said about the psychiatric effects of anabolic-androgenic steroids. Research generally suggests that users are more hostile, aggressive, irritable, manic & depressed, and they report more emotional instability, impulsivity, and aggression, than former users or non-users. They are often reported as more likely to abuse other drugs, as well.

Best regards.

DocVikingo
 
QKRTHNU once bubbled...
Make sure he isn't taking anything else though. You didn't mention what sport he's involved with, but If he's into preofessional body-building chances are steroids are the most mild "supplements" he's using.


Hmmm... I'm curious. I had just assumed that if a body builder was into something it would be steroids and not much else, because the "everything else" would affect their growth rate. Since the quicker growth rate is what they are after, why would they counteract that with other stuff??


On a side note I have a question that might spur some more info on this subject. Anabolic steroids put muscle growth into hyper drive basically. Would the increased need for oxygen to feed these muscles(which his body wouldn't be accustomed to providing) be a reason for concern with respect to diving??
 
Poseidon once bubbled...



Hmmm... I'm curious. I had just assumed that if a body builder was into something it would be steroids and not much else, because the "everything else" would affect their growth rate. Since the quicker growth rate is what they are after, why would they counteract that with other stuff??
On a side note I have a question that might spur some more info on this subject. Anabolic steroids put muscle growth into hyper drive basically. Would the increased need for oxygen to feed these muscles(which his body wouldn't be accustomed to providing) be a reason for concern with respect to diving??

Among other things to take, creatine helps increase muscle mass. But as in all drugs, dosage is as important as the drug itself, so an effective dose of anabolic steroids is not just the most important item in their pharmacy, but a marker of how dedicated they are to taking supplements to achieve size, and downplay the known critical side effects of the drug. Its this attitude that is of concern in diving.

A muscled individual could consume more 02, but only if s/he recruited the muscles in strenuous activity. Otherwise, gas consumption can be as low as most.
 
Poseidon once bubbled...



Hmmm... I'm curious. I had just assumed that if a body builder was into something it would be steroids and not much else, because the "everything else" would affect their growth rate. Since the quicker growth rate is what they are after, why would they counteract that with other stuff??
Well, there are an incredible number of substances pro body-builders would use. I can name a few, but I'm sure there's a lot more.

[Growth Aids]
Anabolic / Androgenic Steroids
Growth Hormone
Insulin
Estrogen Blockers
Aromatase inhibitors

[Fat Burners]
DNP
Cocaine
Speed (Meth, Crank)
Thyroid Hormone
Other various fat burners

[Strong Pain killers]
Codein, Mophine etc)

[Sleeping Aids]
Valium, GHB etc

[Vitamins]
Injectable B-12
And Tons of other Nutritional supplements & vitamins

[Antibiotics]
Bound to get infected after injecting so much so often
 
QKRTHNU once bubbled...

Well, there are an incredible number of substances pro body-builders would use. I can name a few, but I'm sure there's a lot more.

[Growth Aids]
Anabolic / Androgenic Steroids
Growth Hormone
Insulin
Estrogen Blockers
Aromatase inhibitors

[Fat Burners]
DNP
Cocaine
Speed (Meth, Crank)
Thyroid Hormone
Other various fat burners

[Strong Pain killers]
Codein, Mophine etc)

[Sleeping Aids]
Valium, GHB etc

[Vitamins]
Injectable B-12
And Tons of other Nutritional supplements & vitamins

[Antibiotics]
Bound to get infected after injecting so much so often

The tip of an iceberg! Thanks Q.
 
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