promocop
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Getting the Aquatica Housing for the Canon5d. Help me pick the strobe and why?
S&S ys110 vs Ion strobe?
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Both are very nice strobes. Size goes to the Inon, YS110a is very durable. I've have two leaks with my YS110s, and neither required more than just replacing the back cap and cleaning out the inside.
Given the camera you are using, would think both would work really well, but the round coverage of the YS might be a bit better.
I've switched to using nickel zinc batteries in mine, and you get roughly another 100 shots per charge and much faster recycling. Not sure I would use them in a Inon, as they don't seem to have the same heat capacity if used fast.
Given the camera you are using, would think both would work really well, but the round coverage of the YS might be a bit better.
I've switched to using nickel zinc batteries in mine, and you get roughly another 100 shots per charge and much faster recycling. Not sure I would use them in a Inon, as they don't seem to have the same heat capacity if used fast.
OP
promocop
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Zinc instead if Lithium?
yup. Nickel zinc rechargables. Higher voltage.
Up side is faster recharge rates, holds a charge amazingly well, recharges fast and they do not get hot charging or discharging.
Down side is they are higher voltage, so some equipment that checks for voltage will not work, some worry that the higher voltage will reduce life for flash lights, and with some equipment (the small inon strobe, for example), if you use the really fast recycle rate, the unit might over heat.
I started out carefully testing everything I own that uses AA, and it is all I use now.
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Odd thing is that people that have not tried them, or tested them seem to hate them. The Popular Science article comments are very typical. Is it Amps or Watts that are important? I have tested them in both strobes and LED lights, they last longer, so my guess is watts are what is important (most of the time). But if Watts are important then everyone is over estimating the capacity of most rechargeables, because they don't hold to that 1.2 volts.
Note: Don't recommend them in standard lights, as they most likely will shorten the life of the filament. LED's are a mixed bag, some are brighter, some are not, but all run longer and are brighter longer.
Warmwater Wank
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So which Inon? I shoot a YS110A and really like it. Reliable, quick recycle, good on batteries, plenty of light output and coverage. Yeah, it's bigger and heavier than an S2000 Inon but hey, if you're schlepping around a 5D in an Aquatica you'll scarcely notice! The aim/focus light on the 110A is a plus against the S2000 but of course other Inons have this feature. (I take a flashlight along for backup on a night dive but otherwise get by on just using the strobe's aim light.) Can't say as I've ever heard an Inon owner gripe about their flash though--this one is a choice between good product lines. // ww
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promocop
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Thanks, I keep going back and forth. Just priced out all the options to put the 5D in housing with strobes, brakets, dome, bulkhead connectors, etc., etc. and I'm up to about $6 grand!!! Now, I'm falling back to either the OLY pen in their new housing or the G11 in the fisheye housing. Had the G-10, it was OK. I guess I ill never be happy until that 5D gets 'wet' for picture quality...but the prices..JEEEZZZ!
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promocop,
price only the G11 with Patima/Fisheye housing against a housing for the 5D.
Strobes and arms you have to buy and use anyway, if you use the G11, Oly or 5D camera.
As i bought recently the G11 and the Patima housing, this setup will be about 1700$ with no tray, arms and strobes.
A Ikelite housing for the 5D will be the same including macro and dome port.
Ikelite housings work very well and have a built-in TTL converter so you can shoot TTL
using their DS-160/161/200 strobes.
For some 500-1000$ more you will get a aluminium housing for the 5D and 2 ports.
If you opt for a aluminium housing be sure that you can attach a slave strobe.
I have a 2007 INON D-2000 strobe with about 150 dives made.
Very reliable, never flooded, powerful and i am very pleased with it.
Chris
price only the G11 with Patima/Fisheye housing against a housing for the 5D.
Strobes and arms you have to buy and use anyway, if you use the G11, Oly or 5D camera.
As i bought recently the G11 and the Patima housing, this setup will be about 1700$ with no tray, arms and strobes.
A Ikelite housing for the 5D will be the same including macro and dome port.
Ikelite housings work very well and have a built-in TTL converter so you can shoot TTL
using their DS-160/161/200 strobes.
For some 500-1000$ more you will get a aluminium housing for the 5D and 2 ports.
If you opt for a aluminium housing be sure that you can attach a slave strobe.
I have a 2007 INON D-2000 strobe with about 150 dives made.
Very reliable, never flooded, powerful and i am very pleased with it.
Chris
Luko
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Well if you already own the 5D camera, it's of course nicer to have a SLR underwater rather than a compact camera. Once you go dSLR you hardly come back to a smaller format.
If price is the real issue start with an Ikelite housing. providing you have the 5D mk1, you can find second hand Ikelite housings (I am selling one because I have switched to high end Subal alu housing) and the full array of lensports (macro and WA dome) for less than 1200 USD altogether (not talking about the lenses of course, depends on what you already have).
I would rather recommend going the budget route since the 5D is already an "outdated" camera (this of course another story if you own a 5Dmk2) which might not be worth investing an alu housing at this time.
Then like poster above says, Ikelite housings works superbly with their brand strobes : Ikelite flashes deliver warm lighting, more power than your first choice above and TTL control, for which Ikelite is the only option with Canon (there would be Subtronics strobes too but costwise I should not even mention them). The only drawaback I see is that they have a proprietary battery preventing them to work on regular AA batteries, unlike Inon or Sea&Sea.
If price is the real issue start with an Ikelite housing. providing you have the 5D mk1, you can find second hand Ikelite housings (I am selling one because I have switched to high end Subal alu housing) and the full array of lensports (macro and WA dome) for less than 1200 USD altogether (not talking about the lenses of course, depends on what you already have).
I would rather recommend going the budget route since the 5D is already an "outdated" camera (this of course another story if you own a 5Dmk2) which might not be worth investing an alu housing at this time.
Then like poster above says, Ikelite housings works superbly with their brand strobes : Ikelite flashes deliver warm lighting, more power than your first choice above and TTL control, for which Ikelite is the only option with Canon (there would be Subtronics strobes too but costwise I should not even mention them). The only drawaback I see is that they have a proprietary battery preventing them to work on regular AA batteries, unlike Inon or Sea&Sea.
The YS 110 is a great strobe...get two!
Love my D2000 strobes, get two.
Good power, fast recycle, easy to control, multiple operating modes, sTTL, External Automatic, Manual, excellent optical connection, reliable, high quality.
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Good power, fast recycle, easy to control, multiple operating modes, sTTL, External Automatic, Manual, excellent optical connection, reliable, high quality.
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