I'm all for waiting and seeing how they do, but the word is that they have the same galvanizing and painting that the Fabers have. Hm.pgdive:
PST price drop
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jonnythan:
Hmmm ... well, I own three Faber LP95's and I haven't experienced any paint or rust problems with any of them. Of course, I've only put a few hundred dives on 'em so far ... so I'll have to wait and see how they do over time.
... Bob (Grateful Diver)
pgdive
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I think for the average recreational diver the Faber coating is not an issue. I've had two sets of them for about 6 years and for what they are used for; single tank shore and boat dives they still look fine inside and out. I don't anticipate any shortened lifespan due to scratches in the outer finish. About the only environment that I would worry about would be caves.
What I also like about them is that they are very negative and for a larger person like me in a 7mm or drysuit that equals less weight on my belt. They would be a little too negatively buoyant as doubles, especially for a smaller person.
I recomend to customers that they should get whatever high-pressure steel tank is available at the best price and then enjoy diving the hell out of it rather than losing half a dive season waiting for a specific brand to become availaible.
What I also like about them is that they are very negative and for a larger person like me in a 7mm or drysuit that equals less weight on my belt. They would be a little too negatively buoyant as doubles, especially for a smaller person.
I recomend to customers that they should get whatever high-pressure steel tank is available at the best price and then enjoy diving the hell out of it rather than losing half a dive season waiting for a specific brand to become availaible.
My LDS said that pst E-80's have come down in price. He is selling them for $189.,$40. more than an Al 80.
Don't know about the sizes.
Don't know about the sizes.
ChrisA
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jonnythan:
I have a steel tank that was made by US Divers in 1968. It was built as you describe: spray-galvanized and painted. It has seen continous use and has two colums of hydro stamps on it. It will likely last for at least another 36 years.. Eventually they might run out of places to put inspection stamps and have to retire the tank The dive shop I frequent opened in the mid 50's and I hear some of thier steel rental tanks date from "way back then".
Theory says that if there is a huge un-met demand someone will meet it. I can see some guy getting a bank loan to build a factory in China. Why can't they make tanks for $50 each that retail for $150? My Canon A80 digital camera was built in China. Scuba tanks have to be a bit easier to build than digital cameras.
Funny how I paid $50 more for a very low-tech PST steel tank then I did for my 4 megapixel Canon digital camera. I just can't believe that tanks cost more to build in either labor or material.
The first guy to set up a production line that ends in $150 retail price for steel tenks will become rich and run the competitors into the ground and it would be easy to do. I'm sure the folks at PST know this.
mack50md
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I ordered an E7-100 in July and ordered a second one last weekend. The price went up $15.00 at my LDS.
Leadking
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jonnythan:Faber doesn't have anything comparable to the E-series (high pressure tanks 8" diameter), Worthington has tanks just like the E-series, but with the same trashy spray-galvanized and painted coating as Fabers.
Sounds to me like PST tanks will still be the ones to get, and the only thing hot about the Worthingtons or Fabers will be your face when you realize how much you paid for a tank you need to scrape rust off of and touch up with paint a couple times a year
Quit the b.s. I've sold over 10,000 Faber tanks and not one came back (other than damage in shipping)
At least the inside won't rust, unlike the PST's flash rust, etc. I've had my faber tank for half a year now, and so have I missed my twice-yearly scrape-rust-and-paint-touch-up? No. The tank is in excellent condition. The boots are quality, too.
Tyler
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jonnythan:Faber doesn't have anything comparable to the E-series (high pressure tanks 8" diameter), Worthington has tanks just like the E-series, but with the same trashy spray-galvanized and painted coating as Fabers.
Sounds to me like PST tanks will still be the ones to get, and the only thing hot about the Worthingtons or Fabers will be your face when you realize how much you paid for a tank you need to scrape rust off of and touch up with paint a couple times a year
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