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Moray Mike

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I'm heading to Toronto for a wedding at the end of June this year and wondered whether it's worth taking my dive gear. I've had a spin through the threads on this section of the Forum and it seems that the Picton, Kingston and Thousand Island areas are both easily accessible from Toronto and seem popular.

Trouble is I know nothing about the scene in Canada...

Is it drysuit or wetsuit water in June?
Is it shore based or boat diving?
What's under the water in Lake Ontario and The St Lawrence?
What's the viz generally like?
Can I hire tanks and weights?
Is Nitrox available?

Any advice would be much appreciated. Cheers! :happywave
 
Moray Mike

I'm heading to Toronto for a wedding at the end of June this year and wondered whether it's worth taking my dive gear.

It is always worth taking you basic gear.

I've had a spin through the threads on this section of the Forum and it seems that the Picton, Kingston and Thousand Island areas are both easily accessible from Toronto and seem popular.

Trouble is I know nothing about the scene in Canada...

Is it drysuit or wetsuit water in June?

Depends on you, I perfer diving dry

Is it shore based or boat diving?

Have a look at these websites, Kingston and St Lawrence Wrecks and Shore Kingston and Picton


What's under the water in Lake Ontario and The St Lawrence?

Fish, wrecks, rocks, weeds

What's the viz generally like?

In June one of the better times to dive, Vis ranges
from 30 - 50 feet I have seen it as high as 70 feet.

Can I hire tanks and weights?

Yes you can

Is Nitrox available?

But of course.
 
I agree with Tom:

Is it drysuit or wetsuit water in June?
I like diving dry. Water temps are likely in the 10-15C range

Is it shore based or boat diving?
Lots of both (check out Tom's web page NTD for the stuff around Kingston, and here's one for the St Lawrence BottomTimes )

What's under the water in Lake Ontario and The St Lawrence?
I'd say we dive for the wrecks.

What's the viz generally like?
Glancing at my logs 30-50' (9-15 metre)

Can I hire tanks and weights?
Yes... there are shops all over, close to the diving. Though you head up the St Lawrence, and I could loan you mine.

Is Nitrox available?
Not every where, but available from enough so it's easily attainable.
 
i would definetly bring your gear. You will be amazed by the quality of the wrecks here. Charters are also much cheaper then in europe...at least in my experience.
 
Moray Mike:
I'm heading to Toronto for a wedding at the end of June this year and wondered whether it's worth taking my dive gear. I've had a spin through the threads on this section of the Forum and it seems that the Picton, Kingston and Thousand Island areas are both easily accessible from Toronto and seem popular.

Trouble is I know nothing about the scene in Canada...

Is it drysuit or wetsuit water in June?
Is it shore based or boat diving?
What's under the water in Lake Ontario and The St Lawrence?
What's the viz generally like?
Can I hire tanks and weights?
Is Nitrox available?

Any advice would be much appreciated. Cheers! :happywave

Mike, I think my friends on this board have been abit too restrained....

You are in for a TREAT!

Ontario has some of the best freshwater wreck diving in the world, bar none. Fresh cold water means the wrecks are intact.

I have a British friend I have dove with, and know abit about your diving in the UK from her. The viz here is generally better than the ocean. Secondly, the lakes are quite cold in June as they have not warmed up yet so a dry suit is a must.

Thirdly, most of the diving is via boat charter. It is often difficult to just walk on these boats during high season (July to September) but in June it might be OK.

Tobermory on Lake Huron at the tip of the Bruce Peninsula, and Kingston/Picton on Lake Ontario are arguably the top spots for scuba diving in Ontario, with Brockville on the St. Lawrence and the towns on the North shore of Lake Erie also excellent. Tobermory waters are quite cold (2-4C at shallow depth) during in late June and a 3 1/2 hour drive from Toronto so you may not have the time, although it has some must do wrecks and is a very scenic spot for divers and non-divers.

The boats do not supply equipment nor tanks nor weights but you can get these either from a Toronto shop or from the dive shops at the dive sites, which are all out of town. You will need transport from Toronto and sometimes you can hook up with other people by checking out some dive shops.

You can bring your own kit and rent tanks at the dive centres. Make sure to bring a card if you want EANx. Most dive operators in the GTA (Greater Toronto Area) offer Nitrox fills.

You must get on the Internet and line up some weekend dives beforehand (at the end of June there is some but not alot of mid-week commercial charters - e-mail the operators the week before you arrive to get their updated schedules).

Tell them what you need and also try to get a buddy. I have found getting a good solid buddy the main problem in doing walk-on dives on boats in Ontario.

One wreck which is absolutely worth doing and is close to Toronto is the "Tiller" wreck only an hour or so drive from Toronto. If you check my website I will be organizing a dive to the Tiller wreck this Summer. It is at 105 feet, an 1850's century 2 masted schooner in excellent condition. It will be cold down there any month of the year. But for a Brit it will be no problem. Make sure if you rent a dry suit, to do a pool checkout for fit before you get on a boat. All the best.
 
Mike,

I'd echo what the others have said above in that you definitely should bring your gear or whatever part of it you can carry.

Kingston and Brockville are great and Brockville likely will have the warmest water, but also the most current. As far as mid-week charters try TomR as I think he said $50 for a Wednesday dive if he has enough folks.

Each place has its own flavour and I'd also highly recommend Tobermory not just for the diving but for the local beauty. The water in June will be just above freezing but if you are looking for a real quiet place, especially mid-week just to chill out (no pun intended) this is the place to go. The town has only a few thousand people so if you are looking for nightlife I'd suggest the other two places.
The two charter outfits there are
www.diversden.ca and www.gswatersports.com

Divers Den (see boats) has their new Renegade boat for walk-on single tank dives and they will often take out only two divers mid-week. If you don't have a buddy I'd suggest giving them a call. That orange rocket will have you on the wrecks in ten minutes.

You were wondering what there is to see down below. Have a look here at one of our SB boardmember's great site.
http://www.scubaq.ca/ontarioscubadiving

You won't be disappointed whereever you choose.
 
Moray Mike:
I'm heading to Toronto for a wedding at the end of June this year and wondered whether it's worth taking my dive gear. I've had a spin through the threads on this section of the Forum and it seems that the Picton, Kingston and Thousand Island areas are both easily accessible from Toronto and seem popular.

Trouble is I know nothing about the scene in Canada...

Is it drysuit or wetsuit water in June?
Is it shore based or boat diving?
What's under the water in Lake Ontario and The St Lawrence?
What's the viz generally like?
Can I hire tanks and weights?
Is Nitrox available?
Any advice would be much appreciated. Cheers! :happywave

Mike,

If you like I would be happy to show you around. I live on the west side of Toronto. I have a 2 single tank setups, 2 double setups (harnesses) All you would need to bring would be your drysuit mask and fins and rent your tanks. I can even provide the transport. You would just have to throw in for fuel. PM me if you are interested. I would plan to dive out of Tom R's store in Kingston. This way you are guaranteed a dive regardless of the weather. There are a number of shore dives and river dives (St.Lawrence) that are quite well protected from bad weather. Please PM my if you are interested. The wreck diving out in the Lake is spectacular.
 
Mike;

Ditto again...

Great diving. June is 7mm or drysuit. All your gear can be rented. Nitrox is available. Viz is good. Lotsa wrecks from both shore and boat anywhere from 20 ft shore dives to 240' Trimix boat dives. There are even dives on buildings that have been flooded and wall dives. You might even be lucky enough to see the rare Zebra Mussle. The Beer is good too!

Pop me a PM if you are looking for dive buddies. Heck, we threw a party for SeaJay - we can throw one for you if you want! :bounce:

Just remember that over here we dive on the right hand side of the lake not the left :D
 
Thank you all very much for the considerable detail. And the great enthusiasm.You guys are obviously proud of what you've got going there in your part of Canada. Sounds as if we'd be daft to miss out on this one. I'll now check out the links and mull it all over and follow up on specifics as soon as I have some firm dates for travel.

Cheers, one an' all... :luxhello:
 
Moray Mike:
Thank you all very much for the considerable detail. And the great enthusiasm.You guys are obviously proud of what you've got going there in your part of Canada. Sounds as if we'd be daft to miss out on this one. I'll now check out the links and mull it all over and follow up on specifics as soon as I have some firm dates for travel.

Cheers, one an' all... :luxhello:

Hey, when you come over...... Bring some Mackeson XXX or Fuller's :D

I look forward to seeing you
 

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