Palau/Yap Trip Report and Video 04/08/11--04/24/11

Please register or login

Welcome to ScubaBoard, the world's largest scuba diving community. Registration is not required to read the forums, but we encourage you to join. Joining has its benefits and enables you to participate in the discussions.

Benefits of registering include

  • Ability to post and comment on topics and discussions.
  • A Free photo gallery to share your dive photos with the world.
  • You can make this box go away

Joining is quick and easy. Log in or Register now!

Rand

Contributor
Scuba Instructor
Divemaster
Messages
580
Reaction score
78
Location
Maryland
# of dives
500 - 999
Short Version:


Palau


Sea Passion Hotel—excellent food, comfortable accommodations
Sam's Tours—great operation and awesome dive guide
Diving—lots of fish diversity, many sharks, a couple mantas, some strong currents but not an issue if you dive with them, not against. Healthy reefs. Water temps around 82 degrees.


Yap


Manta Ray Bay Hotel—very uncomfortable bed, expensive, food options limited
Yap Divers—ok operation, did not like the lack of gear racks on boats
Diving—good, but we kept hitting the same sites over and over again. Reefs are in poor shape. Lots of sharks and saw several mantas. Water temps around 82 degrees.

Here's my video of the trip and how we prepared for it.
YouTube - ‪26Scuba's Channel‬‏

Long Version:


We flew to Palau/Yap from Baltimore, MD and divided our trip into a week at each location. We were part of a group of 16 divers.


Palau


We stayed at Sea Passion hotel and couldn't have been happier. Due to limited flight options, you arrive early in the morning. The staff took this into account and handed us room keys and paperwork to drop off later when we woke up. Fastest check in ever!


Sea Passion offers a free buffet breakfast with lots of options. The staff refilled everything promptly and there was always plenty to eat.


Internet was $5 for the week, but you could only get a signal in and around the lobby. It was slow, but tolerable. The hotel also does laundry for $5 for up to 15 items. It is back by the time you are back from diving.


We ate one dinner at the tables next to the lobby and it was decent and reasonably priced. We also ate upstairs at the Japanese restaurant and found the food good, but expensive.


We walked into town and ate at Kramers, The Drop Off, Rock Island Grill and Manta Grill. Manta Grill was aweful. Drop Off and Rock Island both had lots of options and great pizza. Kramers was also very good—good idea to make reservations here.


We dived with Sam's Tours and even though they had a very large group from Thailand that week, they kept everything organized and running smoothly. Sam's had so many customers that week, they had to rent boats, drivers, and tanks from other operations to handle the demand.

Sam's picked us up at the Sea Passion dock in the morning, but we were forced to walk back (about 15 min. walk--not bad) or take a van back in the afternoon due to low tides.


Our group was split into two groups of 8 and we had Dexter as our guide. Dexter was the best guide I have ever met. He had a unique knack for reading the quick changing currents and we never got caught diving the wrong direction. We heard from the other group that they spent a whole drift dive swimming into the current and also had to reboard and reposition just after jumping in after their guide realized his mistake too late.


Dexter was great at finding unique fish and small creatures. We saw lots of large schools, sharks on just about every dive, and two mantas at German Channel. Visibility was about 80-100 feet with a moderate amount of particles in the water. We used reef hooks on about a third of the dives. Dexter provided reef hooks to those who did not have them. Some currents were strong, but as long as you are diving with them, they are not a problem. We encountered a few eddies and down currents, but Dexter made sure to stay out in front of us on those dives and as long as we followed and stuck with him, we had no troubles.


We only scheduled two dives a day, and I would suggest doing three a day instead. For the 45-60min travel times each way, it only makes sense to take advantage of your time out there.


We did two dives on Pelelieu and also did the land tour. I recommend both.


Sam's provides a Bento box lunch. You pick your choice from about 12 different meals the day prior. Most are Asian dishes of chicken, pork, or beef. There is also a ham sandwich option.

Another benefit of diving with Sam's was having use of their vans. We never paid for a cab. We would just ask for a ride and they would take us where we wanted to go. We tipped, of course. Twice, the drivers gave their number to the restaurant they dropped us off at with instructions for the wait staff to call when we were finishing our meal. Another time, we flagged down a Sam's van after we found we bit off more than we could chew on a lengthy walk into town. They gladly took us back to the hotel. Sam's Tours Rocks!


Yap


You again fly in very early in the AM at Yap. Their check in is similar to Sea Passion's with a short 2 minute tour of the property and then off to your room to get a couple hours of sleep before the dives that day.


We stayed at Manta Ray Bay hotel. I found their mattress unbearable. Another member of our group had a newer, more padded mattress (his room was in a newer section of the hotel over the dive shop). I asked the front desk if we could swap mattresses for the week and was told no. They did offer to switch me to a room with a better mattress for an additional $180. I didn't go for that and ended up sleeping on the cushions for the furniture in the room.


Internet at Manta Ray Bay is $130 for the week. They also have hourly and other options. Most of our group paid $5/hr at the cafe down the street. The hotel does laundry, but charge $1-3 per item, depending on the item.


At Manta Ray Bay, they serve all meals on the M'Nuw, a pirate ship docked in front of the hotel. Breakfast is free, but it was a struggle to get items you wanted. They were very slow to replenish the buffet items and most days I felt lucky to get an egg and some toast. There is not a whole lot to choose from at breakfast.

One morning, I decided I would get French toast, whatever the cost. I seized an opportunity when a German lady paused a moment too long at the bacon tray. I jumped in front of her and snatched up the last four pieces of French toast. She was obviously not too happy with me as was evidenced by her account of the event to her friends. I don't speak German, but when she motioned in my direction and said "whoosh", I knew the jist of it. I would like to take this opportunity to apologize the the great country of Germany and hope that my actions did not set back our relations with them too far. :)


The wait staff continues to be slow at lunch and dinner. Several times I had to hunt them down to take my order. They have a half decent menu, but they were out of much of it. We soon tired of the same burgers, pizzas, and tacos each day. For dinner, they offer a choice of 3 entrees in addition to the lunch menu, but those entrees are twice the price.


We ate at Oasis and Trader's Ridge in town. Oasis was very good. Trader's Ridge was good and even arranged a lobster dinner for all 16 of us. However, we noticed halfway through the meal that a steady stream of rats was crawling up the trees and into the second floor of the hotel. We didn't go back.


Yap Divers is the dive op co-located at Manta Ray Bay. They have nice open air gear lockers and camera tables and a nice rinse area. Their small boats lack gear storage racks and you are limited to laying your scuba unit on the floor of the boat and hoping your gauges or regs don't get crushed.


We also weren't prepared for all the beetlenut spitting by the dive guides. Yuck.


The guides did an adequate job, but aside from pointing out a few fish or creatures here or there, they didn't do much more than help us on and off the boat.


We also didn't feel like we were in control of picking the dive sites. We kept hitting the same sites over and over again and I began to wonder where all the sites listed on the shirts in the gift shop were.


We did get to see mantas on nearly all the dives we were supposed to see them. Unfortunately, the water was a bit green and murky at Alex's Alley where they came very close to us over the cleaning station. Most of the dives in Mils Channel, where the mantas are, were about 60-70 foot viz.


We did venture out on their one larger boat, which could take all 16 of us (barely). It had gear storage racks and places to sit. It goes out to the farther out sites.


Yap was good, but the reefs are in poor shape. They have been hit by a combination of heavy storms and crown of thorns damage. Other than the mantas, we really didn't see anything we hadn't seen in Palau.


Some of our group did a cultural tour on the last day and seemed to enjoy it.


Conclusion


If I had to do the trip over again, and I will, I would spend 10-14 days at Palau, doing at least 3 dives a day, and skip Yap. I would also consider a liveaboard/land diving split at Palau. If you absolutely must see mantas, hit Yap for 2-3 days on the way in and spend the rest of the time at Palau.

20110419ryap18.jpg
20110420gyap72.jpg
20110415gpalaujellyfishlake13.jpg
 
We had a similar experience in March. Went to Yap first and dove 4 days. Stayed at Palau Pacific Dive Resort (formerly Trader's Ridge). Rooms very comfortable and clean. Food was very good, but service slow. Dive operation was good: did 2 manta dives, an evening mandarin fish mating dive, a shark feeding dive, and 4 dives outside the reef. I'm glad we did Yap, but agree with you that the diving is so much better in Palau, that we wouldn't go back.

In Palau we stayed at the Sea Passion before and after boarding the Aggressor II. If we go back, we would probably do the Aggressor again and a week diving with Sam's.
 
We stayed at Manta Ray Bay hotel. I found their mattress unbearable. Another member of our group had a newer, more padded mattress (his room was in a newer section of the hotel over the dive shop). I asked the front desk if we could swap mattresses for the week and was told no. They did offer to switch me to a room with a better mattress for an additional $180. I didn't go for that and ended up sleeping on the cushions for the furniture in the room.
When we stayed there, we had a waterbed.
 
Thanks for the post...you french toast thief! I agree next time just Palau...liveaboard and Sams!
 
Nice video
 
videos

The first video in the above link was taken the same week you guys were on Yap.
I was there as well and dove Mi'il Channel a few times, a checkout Slow n Easy (mantis shrimp, shrimp cleaning stations, other cool stuff), plus Vertigo, Peelak Corner, O'keefe's Passage, Yap Caverns, and some other stuff I can't remember now. Mantas on every Mi'il, and cool stuff on every other dive (save one).

We even went fishing and caught 3 big Wahoo (Ono), one of which was half taken by sharks. Saw dolphins, too.

Granted Yap isn't as good a diving as Palau, but still worth stopping through.
 
Hey Jim, I remember seeing you and your family there and overheard a bit of your story about the shark. I wonder if Ikelite covers shark damage in their warranty. :) You should send that video to them. Maybe they'll use it in a promotion about the strength of their arms.

Looks like you got to visit a few more sites than we did. Maybe the size of our group influenced that. Either way, I'm glad I got to experience Yap, but when I make my next trip out that way from Washington, D.C., and spend all those hours in the plane, I'm heading to Palau.
 
There were 2 Jim's there at the same time--the Shark ate the other Jim's strobe (Guam Jim in the video). My shark ate my wife's & daughter's wahoo.

Just pointing out that if you want to see dive somewhere in Yap, just ask--in my experience they will take you out alone with a driver and guide if need be. To your point, there is nothing like the Blue Corner in Yap. But we wanted to get away and the 13yo wanted to go--and she isn't a good enough diver for Palau.

I liked diving with Sam's when I was there, but I don't trust them to the level of having my new diver teen go out with them. (The last time I dove with them my wife and her friend skipped a dive and hung out on the boat. Another Sam's boat came by and the driver of the boat asked my wife if she knew how to drive a boat..when my wife said she did, the 2 Sam's guys jumped on the other boat and disappeared for 45 mins).

The food did kind of suck--agree with you there. I think we were in between a very busy period and a period where almost nobody was coming in and perhaps their inventory was suffering. We sent a care package (for ourselves) out to the island that still hasn't arrived--so it is not really like the sort of shipping traffic that Palau gets. Cookies tasted good, though. I don't eat fish, so my choice was kind of limited. You can buy cokes 1/2 price across the street, too. The sad part was that the breakfast was really good there a few years ago--especially the fried rice thing.

I almost slipped and died at the bottom of the Mnuw gang-plank and in general I am not so big a fan of the ship. I think it is cool in pictures but a real pain in the ass in practice.

We had no problem with our room or the bed comfort. Service was on island-time as expected.

Betelnut is disgusting--Agree--but at least you get the real culture. I find the whole female deference to men thing a bit jarring too. Yapese women, especially the outer islanders, are by their culture, stand-offish with men. They don't look at you, will hardly talk to you, and may flee. My wife was doing the laundry in the laundromat down the block and I went down to help (after I was done setting up our gear). The formerly chatty women all went silent and some left--when I left it was chatty time again. Same at MRB--Hersila was very chatty and would talk to men, but she grew up on Guam for a while, and even so was much more chatty with my wife when taking an order than with me. I don't think I said a word to the other women. I find the whole height thing interesting too--women can't be physically higher than a male relative--so if Willie, from Woleai, came in while Hersila, from Woleai, was working--she would have to stop working and sit.

While weird, I don't think you get that same sort of cultural feel in Palau.

In general the new Continental schedule is killing Yap--they are having a hard time adjusting to it.
 
That's really too bad about the food. I've wanted to go back some time, but bad food would be a deal breaker. Back when we were there, the restaurant was still on the third floor, no ship, and they were very proud of chef Bill Nunn's cooking (it was good enough that I still remember his name). I know Bill left to return to the PPR, but I think he since moved on from there.

Breakfast then was off a menu and we had excellent eggs every morning - the local chickens probably nibble on coconut. The best touch IMO was the bottle of habanero Tabasco on the table (Bill was originally from Jamaica), much better flavor than regular tabasco. We had great burgers and good pizza for lunch, one day making the mistake of trying the "local" chili pepper on the pizza. Ouch. I do remember that anything you'd normal expect to be made with lettuce, like salads or a burger topping, they'd substitute green cabbage instead because lettuce couldn't hold up through the barge trip. Steaks weren't on the menu since they were shorted their beef on the last delivery (we slipped up the hill to the newly opened Trader's Ridge for steaks one night), but we ate excellent ono every day, cooked and raw. When the rest of our grop went fishing and caught ono, they served it up in an incredible spread. Bill also cooked us up a mangrove crab one night, tasty but not much meat. I have very fond memories of that trip.
 
There is a short cut from sams to the hotel. Cuts the walk down to 5 minutes. Thanks, you reaffirmed my decision last Feb to stay in Palau 2 weeks (one on the aggressor and one with Sams) instead of splitting time with Yap. Diving Palau surpassed any other I have done.
 

Back
Top Bottom