P5100/Fantasea Impressions

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Recently I upgraded to the P5100 with the Fantasea housing. Although I have only managed (lousy weather) two dives with it, I've dry fiddled quite a bit, with and without the housing. Also, because I am forever timing out, I have had to do it as attachments. See below (hope this works).
 

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Recently I upgraded to the P5100 with the Fantasea housing. Although I have only managed (lousy weather) two dives with it, I've dry fiddled quite a bit, with and without the housing. Also, because I am forever timing out, I have had to do it as attachments. See below (hope this works).
Hi Reefhugger, Here is our response to your very nice mail (in bold italics) from Fantasea Line Fantasea Line housings, accessories and water sports cameras

Fantasea Housing

Fits Nikon P5000/P5100 - Sturdy, all functions, compact, and threaded lens port.

I have several problems with this housing. However, at least this one could be peculiar to me. I find the spring loading of the shutter release button to be a little too much. As I hand hold/aim my strobe with my left hand, I shoot one handed with the right. The effort required to depress the shutter release is then, for me, almost built in hand movement, affecting sharpness and framing.

This is actually how most housings are designed, in order to allow for a 200+ Ft. depth rating there must be ample spring strength to resist pressure at these depths. We are confident that you can get used to this slight increase in spring strength.

Another problem is, where to place thumb. I have been putting it between the control wheel knob and the buttons for the four way switch. As I shoot in manual, there is some risk of inadvertently changing my speed or aperture. Another option would be, the thumb underneath and the middle finger for the shutter release. This then is a work in progress. However, I can imagine that this could be an issue for heavily gloved hands. I am fortunate, I dive in warm waters.

We have tested this housing and have found no problem what so ever with the thumb placement, either between the command control and multi function control or below it. Even with gloved hands.

Still another. The back cover has a rubber rectangle strip that presses on the camera and holds it in place. Unfortunately, this strip runs right over the focus light indicator. I have not yet done it, but I can see where I will have to cut out a 1/8” gap.


The rubber rectangle is in fact an anti glare hood which allows for better viewing in high ambient light. We can see no way it will affect the focus light indicator?

This one is a grouse. As economical as this housing is, surely we could have gotten a lens cap?

A reasonable gripe and we will look into it. But like you said, the housing is very economically priced.

And now a quirk. There is a little wishbone that fits over the telephoto lever. When you set up, the wishbone can press on the telephoto lever ever so slightly. The result is when you turn on, the telephoto (quite sensitive) runs right up to max, caught me out a couple times. After setting up, play with the telephoto a little and every thing settles down just fine.

This part has been redesigned and no longer causes even the slightest problem.

After all of the above, you would think that I am dreadfully unhappy with this housing. Not quite, if anything, I am satisfied. Some things to work out, yes, but the saving on the
cost of housing can buy a wide angle wet lens. For me, the threaded lens port is a big plus. And finally, so far it has not leaked a drop.

and you forgot to mention the free Flood insurance policy it comes with 
 
Reefhugger;
A lot of these things start to make more sense in the water. It's quite odd shooting a camera in any housing, I'm sure you'll get used to it. If you have any problems with the controls, let Fantasea customer service know and they can fix it for you.

I do have some excellent trays with handles now. Although they are designed to hold strobes, you can always use it to have a better grip on the housing.

Jack
 
Thanks for both your responses.

Hman - The anti glare rubber rectangle sits right on top of the focus light indicator and makes it not visible. This is the light immediately above the screen, right beside the bottom end of viewfinder. Above it is the 'flash ready' light. The focus light glows a steady green light when 'in focus' and flashes when 'out of focus'.

As I mentioned, a 1/8" or 3/16" gap will fix this. It would have been nice if it was ex factory, but as I said no problem. Fixable and should not affect the anti glare purpose noticeably.

Jack - Thanks for your mention of tray and arm. I am actually using a modified old Sunpak Mariner system and love it - very, very compact. I am, however, shooting one handed by habit (from Nikonos IVA days), and by choice. I find it quicker to release/hold/aim than adjust angle of strobe head, especially for moving subjects. The original 'quick draw Mcgraw' - lol.:D
 
Hi, I have checked with one of my FP5000 units and it does not block the focus light indicator, I am just wondering if you have put the back door on right? Jack, have you heard of any complaints about this as well?
Anyway, you have a quick fix Reefhugger and it does not pose a real problem either way.
Enjoy and send pictures to our guest gallery Fantasea Line - Submit to Gallery

Happy Holidays to all
Howard
Fantasea Line
Merry Christmas from the Fantasea Team
 
I also have a Nikon P5100 and the FantaSea FP5000 housing. I have used it on two week long dive trips both with and without gloves - primarily single-handed. I never had any problems with the shutter or with thumb placement and found it quite easy to control underwater. Unless your rubber rectangular strip is misapplied I don't understand how it could block the focus indicator light - mine is easily viewed underwater.

I had the same issue with the zoom control and upon Fantasea's suggestion I returned it and they are replacing it with a newer unit. I have found their customer service to be very responsive.

I agree that the use of the internal strobe is limited and that an external strobe is definitely desireable, but at least using the internal strobe is an option - compromised though it may be. From what I can tell the internal flash cannot be used at all with the Ikelite housing.

Chuck


This is a great setup especially if you are on a budget. For the price of the higher priced spread I was able to get the housing plus wide angle lens and one year of flood insurance.
 
In fact, one is a bit more than annoyance. When the telephoto is used, the camera adjusts the aperture. This is fine in ‘Auto’, but it does it also in ‘M’ mode (my preferred mode). I suppose that Nikon was trying to helpful but I really wish that they had not. When I set my speed and aperture in ‘M’, I expect them to stay. You have to readjust the aperture if it is not what you want (or change your strobe setting). I have already been caught out a couple of times and will now have to develop the habit of checking my settings before every shot, regardless of their similarity.

Don't know if you received an answer yet but all cameras do this. It's a function of lens physics. Not that I can explain it to you exactly. Pick up any camera, even a DSLR, open it to the maximum of the lens (2.8?) then simply zoom the camera. You'll notice that the new maximum aperture is probably around 5.6.
 
Gary;

Good point. It's actually a function of many, not all, zoom lenses. They want to get the most sharpness out of the lens as it zooms and gets softer. By using a smaller aperture they give you usable lens quality.

There are some more expensive zoom lenses that are fixed aperture.

Best to "zoom with your fins" and not use the telephoto setting for best sharpness and lens speed. The old adage of if you think you're too close, get closer is important to remember.

Jack
 
On the 5100 there is a "Fixed Aperture" setting in the menu that when activated minimizes the aperture shift when zooming - within the limits of the lens specs. I believe at full zoom the max aperture is 5.3. The aperture shift is greater when the "Fixed Aperture" not activated.
 
I recently received my replacement FP5000 housing from FantaSea and all of the control alignment issues that I had with the original have been addressed. All controls now perform flawlessly. Jack at opticaloceansales.com was a great help in putting my package together and immediately got FantaSea involved when I mentioned some initial concerns about the housing. Numerous emails were exchanged so they could fully understand my worries - minor though they may have been. Thanks to both opticaloceansales.com and Fantasea for quickly dealing with my situation. I have no hesitation in recommending both for anyone looking for a Nikon Coolpix housing or accessories.

I've attached a couple pics that I took with the camera/housing.

Chuck
 

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