O-rings and blow outs

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Diverchik

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Ok, how many uses can you usually get out of a tank valve o-ring? Will they blow out at depth or do they normally just slow leak then blow when you switch them out for the second tank under full pressure.
We had two instances of tiny bubbles escaping at depth...got a cool pic of it, but wondered if it would really blow at depth.
 
Why take the chance...just replace the o-ring....cheap and simple!
 
I had an oring blow in about 15ft last weekend. I shared air with my buddy, he shut off air, and we surfaced. Not a fun experience, was just glad that we hadnt gotten any deeper.
 
The person who is filling your tanks should be checking the condition of the o-ring before he/she fills it. Of course you can't depend on this so it is to your advantage to take a look at the o-ring yourself before connecting your regs. It's your life.
 
I always keep a couple extra in my bag. It drives me nuts when I'm a boat, the o-ring leaks, and the crew could care less. I'm a paying customer darn it and I want a tank that doesn't leak. Is there any correlation between and leaking o-ring and the probability it will blow?

Does anyone else have trouble concentrating with Diverchik's avatar or just me? :)
 
Diverchik:
that's what I'm asking. Do you change o-rings between every fill?
I would change them anytime they leak or lose gas.

I usually do a bubble check at the surface. If the leak isn't a gusher, then I complete the dive and change it at the earliest oppurtunity. I also inspect the o-ring before I attach the reg- it takes a half a second- to look for cuts, frays, dirt, the boogeyman, etc.

I have DIN regs, so the o-ring is on the reg, not the tank, but they usually last the whole season unless they fall out and are lost. I replace them when I service my reg, so they tend to be new. With careful use, the o-rings should last several years.
 
Garrobo:
The person who is filling your tanks should be checking the condition of the o-ring before he/she fills it.

No, that's not their job. You are responsible for the state of your own equipment. The person filling your tank is supposed to put gas in your tank, not make sure your gear is working properly.
 
Diverchik:
that's what I'm asking. Do you change o-rings between every fill?
Check the ring before you put the reg on. If it is not okay, replace o-ring and when you service reg or tank/valve.
 
Diverchik:
that's what I'm asking. Do you change o-rings between every fill?
No, you don't change it every time. This would ruin the tank valve in no time, especially if the o-ring change is done carelessly. I've seen a lot of people jam an o-ring pick made from steel into the gap between the o-ring and the seat. This scratches the seat and ruins it over time. The correct way is to 'spear'
the o-ring without touching the metal and pulling it out of the groove. Ideally, one should use an o-ring pick made from brass, which is softer than the steel the tank valve is made of.

Before you put your reg on the tank, do a quick visual check of the o-ring, Wipe away any dirt or debris and check for a smooth surface. If the o-ring looks 'ragged' anywhere along its edge, exchange it. That's really all there is to it.

As far as leaks go: If there is a slight 'champagne'-like fizzle consisting of tiny bubbles, don't worry about it. It is safe to dive and pretty much every other tank I've rented did that. If you want to be really good about it, change the ring after the dive. However, if the bubbles are larger, pinhead-sized and up, I would exchange the o-ring before the dive, although people have told me not to worry about it even in those cases.

You can try the following to check for leaks before a dive: After you have visually inspected the ring, put your reg on and turned the air on, and spit into the groove between tank valve and first stage. If there are no bubbles, you're fine. If there are bubbles, turn off air, bleed the reg and take it off, then wipe the o-ring and put the reg back on. Sometimes this is all that's needed to stop a slight leak.

Hope this helps.
 

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