Night Dives in PADI's Advanced Openwater Course

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Is it acceptable per PADI's standards to run an advanced openwater course without doing any night dives during the course on regular basis in a location where there are no reasons that precludes doing night dives?
 
It's within standards. The only required dives are deep and navigation.
The other three "electives" are up to the instructor, shop and or student choice.


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OP, you may be thinking of many years ago when Night was the 3rd required dive for AOW, but you could get a waiver if you were in a non- night location, for example some countries that do not allow night dives.
 
OP, you may be thinking of many years ago when Night was the 3rd required dive for AOW, but you could get a waiver if you were in a non- night location, for example some countries that do not allow night dives.

No, no laws or any local conditions of any type that don't allow night diving. There are no laws of any type related to diving in our area anyways. All I can figure out is that the instructor doesn't enjoy or doesn't know how to night dive. I find it disturbing that a students earns an "Advanced" card without having done a single night dive at all since he was certified.
 
Your question: "Is it acceptable per PADI's standards to run an advanced openwater course without doing any night dives during the course..."

The answer: yes.

Simple question, simple answer. The first response to your question gives more detail on PADI standards for the AOW course. Sounds like you're a fan of night diving, which is fine, but you asked about PADI standards.
 
. I find it disturbing that a students earns an "Advanced" card without having done a single night dive at all since he was certified.

Really? You realize that a lot of folks have zero interest in diving at night right?
 
Really? You realize that a lot of folks have zero interest in diving at night right?

I am sure there are but that doesn't mean you ignore the training for all that go through the PADI advanced openwater course and an instructor who doesn't know much about night diving.
 
I am sure there are but that doesn't mean you ignore the training for all that go through the PADI advanced openwater course and an instructor who doesn't know much about night diving.

I think you are making two mistakes in this single sentence.
(1) All the AOW does is advance you beyond OW. It does not make you an advanced diver. There are 18 possible adventure dives other than Deep and Nav; why should ANY of them be ignored? But, you can only pick 3.
(2) You are assuming and asserting the instructor the instructor doesn't know much about night diving. You don't know.

You disagree with that instructor's choice of adventure dives. Fine. Not your problem. Not a problem at all.
 
Right now were I am located it does not get dark enough to do a "night" dive until past 10:00 p.m. Go further north and it gets later. Heck, I've participated in night dive specialty classes where we don't finish until 2:00 a.m.

Nope, not doing that again.
 
I am sure there are but that doesn't mean you ignore the training for all that go through the PADI advanced openwater course and an instructor who doesn't know much about night diving.

There is no requirement for Night diving in their system.

There is no requirement in NAUIs either. IIRC, its a Night or Low visibility requirement for NAUI. If I'm wrong go ahead and correct me and while you are at it you can report me to NAUI for standards violations because I have absolutely certified AOW students without a night dive, but I'm not wrong.
 
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