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First, I just want to says that I am new to scuba diving and am currently getting my cert. My girlfriend and I are going on a cruise this spring break and we want to go diving in Cozumel and Belize. Just wanted to get some advice from those that have dove in Cozumel and Belize and/or done it via a cruise.

First, I was told that I shouldnt book a dive via the cruiseliner because I'll be double charged and end up on a 15+ boat. Has anyone found this to be the case, and thusly recommend I book a dive on my own.

Also, if i chose to find someone on my own, who do yall recommend I go with in Belize? Cozumel?

What locations should I aim to dive at in Belize? Cozumel?

Thanks in advance for the advice.
 
rokz:
I was told that I shouldnt book a dive via the cruiseliner because I'll be double charged and end up on a 15+ boat. Has anyone found this to be the case, and thusly recommend I book a dive on my own.
Yes, booking through the cruiseline will cost you more, but not double, probably closer to the +25% to +50% range. But I feel that this is an acceptable price to pay because the dive operator is responsible for getting to back to the Cruise ship on-time. And if for some reason they cause you to miss the boat, then they are responsible for all costs to get you back on board at the next dock. If you book on your own then you are on your own for this.

As for 15+ on a dive boat; I have dove in Cozumel, Belize & Roatan, all through a cruise ships and have never had more than about 12 on a dive boat.

rokz:
What locations should I aim to dive at in Belize? Cozumel?
Unless you charter your own boat this will be entirely up to the crew, and will depend mainly on the conditions and experiance of the divers.

Since you are going to Belize and Cozumel. I strongly encourage you to take courses in both Deep Diving and Drift Diving. These can be done either through specialty courses or as part of an Advanced Open Water certification. The reason I suggest these is that the top diving attraction in Belize is the "Blue Hole", which is a deep dive. And Cozumel is almost entirely a Drift Diving environment.
 
Try Seasports Belize. On a cruise, and before I got certified, I organized a group of snorkelers, and one diver, to go on the reef with them. The snorkeling was great and the diver had 2 spectacular dives. Had great service and will be diving with them this June.. FYI..the Blue Hole is a long boat ride from where the cruise ships dock. They're at //www.seasportsbelize.com/
 
First time diving in carib was also first cruise. Booked thru the cruise line and everything worked out, didn't cost that much more, and it saved a lot of logisitics hassles. Missing the ship will ruin your cruise. The 2 boat dives I went on thru the cruise line had 8 and 12 divers and 2 DMs on each dive. Both were guided so it was really a vacation. Nowadays I book and plan my own dives.
 
rokz:
First, I just want to says that I am new to scuba diving and am currently getting my cert. My girlfriend and I are going on a cruise this spring break and we want to go diving in Cozumel and Belize. Just wanted to get some advice from those that have dove in Cozumel and Belize and/or done it via a cruise.

First, I was told that I shouldnt book a dive via the cruiseliner because I'll be double charged and end up on a 15+ boat. Has anyone found this to be the case, and thusly recommend I book a dive on my own.

Also, if i chose to find someone on my own, who do yall recommend I go with in Belize? Cozumel?

What locations should I aim to dive at in Belize? Cozumel?

Thanks in advance for the advice.

You will pay a lot more (I found about 25%) for diving booked through the cruise ship. If there is a large group on your ship, there will be a large group on the dive boat. I would definitely recommend you research and setup your own diving. You need to make sure you are clear on the schedule to make sure you can get back to the ship. Some shops will even pick you up/drop you off.

I have never been to Belize but Cozumel has it all as you know. My personal favorite was Santa Rosa Wall. The diving in Cozumel will generally be about 100' for dive 1 and 40-60' for dive 2 unless special arrangements are made/offered. The water is crystal clear so it's like you are in a giant fish tank. You will be drift diving but just make sure you don't touch the coral on the bottom and stay near your group. The boat will be following and will pick you up.

Enjoy the trip.

--Matt
 
Non-diver wife and I were in Coz back in the fall on our 2oth wedding anniversary. I opted not to take one of the cruise-booked dive trips because it was an all day thing and I didn't want to leave her alone. We did the dolphin encounter (5 min taxi ride from the ship) and I found out once we got there, the park offered a shore dive for $45- lasted about an hour and they provided all the gear. Wife sat under a cabana and drank boat drinks while I was down, easy walk in - just me and the guide, lotsa marine life, eels, fish, lobsters HUGE freakin' tarpon, little cave penetration, 40-60 ft depth and unbelievable viz.....for me anyway. There wasn't anything mentioned on the ship about that set-up, like they were pushing the boat dives. I had a great time, beat the heck out of a long boat ride and putting up with the cattleboat scenario.
 
Rokz,

I have dove with the cruise ship and also handled my own trips. I find that I get much more diving for my dollar handling it myself.

My wife and I have been to Cozumel 14 times and are headed back there the first week of April.

I would recommend that you check the websites of following three dive operations:
Living Underwater
Liquid Blue
Blue XT Sea

I have dove numerous times with Living Underwater, three time with Liquid Blue and have heard excellent reports from Blue XT Sea.

Email them and let them know when you're arriving. They can make arrangements to pick you up at the closest hotel pier which will normally be a short walk. Dive boats can't dock on the cruise ship piers.

All of these dive operators take small groups of 2 to 8 divers and should be able to provide you with some excellent diving. The cost may be equal to or greater than what is offered on the ship. Keep in mind that you will be diving with very small groups, doing computer diving and normally using bigger tanks.

You can plan on about one hour plus bottom times.

Because you will only be in Cozumel for a day you will probably dive sites like Santa Rosa Wall, the Palancar system, San Franciso Wall or Tormentos. A deep wall and a shallower wall or flat reef for the second dive. All of these are excellent dive sites.

They won't take you to the deep dive sites like Columbia, Devil's Throat or San Juan you can see those when you can come and stay a few days.

Good luck on trip.

Jim
 
I just did two of my open water dives in Cozumel I'm newly certified and don't have any real experience yet. However, the folks at "Deep Blue" in Coz were great. I just did the two checkout dives from shore, but someone from a cruiseliner (taking lessons there) recommended them to me. Do make reservations ahead.

Have a blast!


rokz:
First, I just want to says that I am new to scuba diving and am currently getting my cert. My girlfriend and I are going on a cruise this spring break and we want to go diving in Cozumel and Belize. Just wanted to get some advice from those that have dove in Cozumel and Belize and/or done it via a cruise.

First, I was told that I shouldnt book a dive via the cruiseliner because I'll be double charged and end up on a 15+ boat. Has anyone found this to be the case, and thusly recommend I book a dive on my own.

Also, if i chose to find someone on my own, who do yall recommend I go with in Belize? Cozumel?

What locations should I aim to dive at in Belize? Cozumel?

Thanks in advance for the advice.
 
Will,

I've done three cruises in the last year, and I leave next week on my fourth. All of these have been "diving" cruises, where I use the ship for room and board, and that's about it.

One big thing about excursions is that they are usually geared towards newer divers. They have to set themselves up for the lowest common denominator, because they have to take everyone that comes along. Local dive shops can turn away people who don't make them feel comfortable, where an excursion is a done deal.

Cruise excursions usually run about 10-40% over what you could book yourself. However, they have some advantages that have already been addressed - number one of which the boat won't leave without you. Another advantage is if the times the ship is in port makes it hard to book your own, you can still dive.

Some of the negatives people talk a lot about are the additional cost, cattle boat ops, and "cruise ship divers".

Additional cost is there. But if you have to take a taxi to a dive op you've booked yourself, then it's a break-even. If you miss the boat, the excursion would have been much, much, much cheaper. One negative though is that sometimes the cruise ship will cancel your excursion if they don't have enough people going on the trip. That sucks.

The rumor mill is that an excursion will be a boat for fifty divers, and sixty will be on board. Most every time I've used an excursion, there have only been a few other divers on the boat. Occasionally, it's just my wife and I. I wouldn't consider this a negative. On the other hand, you will on occasion be put on a snorkel boat. This is ok, but not really what you want. You end up diving on a shallow (-30') reef that snorkelers can enjoy too. If you are in a small group of divers, it's still enjoyable, but you really don't have the elbow room if there's more than six divers. One other negative about excursions is that often times your bottom time will be shortened, because the operator has to get you back to the boat at a set time. I've never really had the feeling my dive was too short, though sometimes I've come up with more air than I'd have liked.

As far as the "cruise ship diver" mentality, CS divers are traditionally the newbies. The attitude about them is that they are unsafe, borrow all their equipment so they don't know how to use it properly, and have all the other associated new diver issues. Compound that with the idea that they are rude and cheap. Toss all that BS out. Every excursion I've used, the other people have been friendly and outgoing, and it's been a very enjoyable time. There are exceptions, but for me, a good time has been the norm.

Generally speaking, I book my own dive trips with local operators I've found out about from ScubaBoard. If I can't make a comfortable reservation due to availability or times, I'll use the ship's excursion. I have however been diving in several different ports of call, and feel like I've got the cruise ship routine down. If this is your first cruise, I'd use excursions just for the peace of mind. Then, when you are more comfortable with your skills and equipment, and more familiar with where you are going, you can branch out into the local self-arranged scene.

There's my two cents. Keep in mind I'm a very conservative diver, though, and I tend to play it safe, as opposed to more adventuresome.
 
I too am a cruise junky, that's what got me into diving. In Belize I would do a ship sponsered dive. The dive sites are far away from where the cruise ships tender in and Belize is one port that you do not want to get left behind in. Coz on the other hand has about 75 or so dive ops. A lot of cruise ship divers rave about a company called eagle ray divers. I haven't used them yet but I will when I am on the conquest in sep.
 

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