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Hello!

I'm introducing myself here, as requested to do when I created the account. To be honest I am only doing this because I want to respond to a message in the classifieds section, and I need to post at least five public messages before I do a direct message.

I'll come back and introduce myself properly later once I've found a way around this.
 
Hi, back now. There is apparently no way around the five post limit, so I'll introduce myself here anyway.

I am a very new diver: a Discover Scuba dive a couple of years ago, then got open water certified this month at a resort in Jamaica. Still feeling very much like I am not safe to dive and need someone with experience to dive with.

Hopefully I'm going to Barbados in February, and I want to take the opportunity to dive there. I did my discover scuba dive there with West Side Scuba (hope it's OK to mention them) - they were great and I will go to them again. To be honest, if I had known earlier this month that I was going to Barbados in February, I probably would have skipped the resort certification and done the Open Water with them.

Anyway, more about me, should anyone care to know. I'm 51, male, married, two kids (one in college, the other recently graduated). My wife has no interest at all in diving and won't even come on the boat as she gets vertigo. (Is there a term for solo diver meaning someone who always needs to get a dive buddy assigned to them? Not solo diver as in self-reliant diver.) I love gadgets, and I'm trying really hard not to make scuba an excuse for gadgets, but instead to focus on my love of being in the water, nature, and seeing interesting things. (But that dive computer with inertial guidance that will give you a 3-d map of your dive is so cool . . .)
 
Question for you, and no judgement is implied...

What would your class need to have had for you to feel comfortable diving with just a buddy? What knowledge, skills, or abilities do you feel like you are missing to be able to just go out and dive?
 
Hi, back now. There is apparently no way around the five post limit, so I'll introduce myself here anyway.

I am a very new diver: a Discover Scuba dive a couple of years ago, then got open water certified this month at a resort in Jamaica. Still feeling very much like I am not safe to dive and need someone with experience to dive with.

Hopefully I'm going to Barbados in February, and I want to take the opportunity to dive there. I did my discover scuba dive there with West Side Scuba (hope it's OK to mention them) - they were great and I will go to them again. To be honest, if I had known earlier this month that I was going to Barbados in February, I probably would have skipped the resort certification and done the Open Water with them.

Anyway, more about me, should anyone care to know. I'm 51, male, married, two kids (one in college, the other recently graduated). My wife has no interest at all in diving and won't even come on the boat as she gets vertigo. (Is there a term for solo diver meaning someone who always needs to get a dive buddy assigned to them? Not solo diver as in self-reliant diver.) I love gadgets, and I'm trying really hard not to make scuba an excuse for gadgets, but instead to focus on my love of being in the water, nature, and seeing interesting things. (But that dive computer with inertial guidance that will give you a 3-d map of your dive is so cool . . .)
Hi, welcome to the underwater world.

That ‘gadget’; how often do you think you’ll go back and look at a dive’s 3D profile. The novelty will soon where off, then you’ve paid for a function you don’t use.

However, if you get into diving seriously, you’ll buy all sorts of gadgets and items, welcome to spending for the rest of your life.
 
Hi, welcome to the underwater world.

That ‘gadget’; how often do you think you’ll go back and look at a dive’s 3D profile. The novelty will soon where off, then you’ve paid for a function you don’t use.

I think this is true. But with no experience, I don't actually know what I will make use of. As a semi-related example, I actually make use of google map's "history" feature quite a lot. It's not uncommon that I will be trying to remember where I was a few years ago - which restaurant did I go to during that vacation, which dog park did I go to on the way to Rochester, etc. I can go back and look at where I went during that vacation. When I first bought a smart phone at what I thought was great expense, it was just a toy and I didn't really understand how much I would use it compared to my flip phone. Conversely, the digital SLR I bought a while ago with one short and one long lens. Hardly ever use the thing, and absolutely never use the longer lens.

(I made a thread about my choice of computer separately here, by the way.

However, if you get into diving seriously, you’ll buy all sorts of gadgets and items, welcome to spending for the rest of your life.
Yup.
 
Question for you, and no judgement is implied...

What would your class need to have had for you to feel comfortable diving with just a buddy? What knowledge, skills, or abilities do you feel like you are missing to be able to just go out and dive?

Great question. I mostly think that I just needed more of everything. The first day was spend at the pool. It was four feet deep. They had to "negotiate" with the resort. I'm not knocking resort dive schools, but this is the kind of thing that happens. I knew going in, so I'm not complaining.

So given it was a four foot pool, I couldn't really practice any buoyancy control. I think the standard progression of buoyancy control is (1) can't stay horizontal (2) can stay horizontal, but can't maintain depth at all (3) can maintain depth but constantly over-compensating back and forth (4) can stay fairly stable but with too much flapping about and bad breathing control, and (5) halfway decent.

Well in a four foot pool I couldn't even get past level 1 because my fins were on the floor and my head was out of the water!

Second day, two dives. The first dive was entirely buoyancy control and I was still terrible. To be fair to my instructor, he was paying attention to me fully, and after the dive he was able explain to me what I needed to do to correct things (arch my back, as in stick my stomach out; don't bend forward). Second dive was much better, with me now at level 3. Spent most of that dive doing each of the things I need to know exactly once. Some of them I didn't do right and had to repeat. Once I got them right once, we were on to the next thing.

Third day, two dives. The first dive was similar to the the second dive of the previous day, mostly doing each of the required things exactly once. I remember it took me several attempts to pass him the octopus the right way round. Once I got it once, on to the next thing.

When ascending, I kept pace with my instructor. I didn't use my computer to determine ascent rate, or when the safety stop had been reached. I didn't deploy the DSMB; he did. We had to ascend a little early because I had a problem with my mask leaking. Actually that was the best bit. I am now very practiced at clearing water from my mask. I also experienced proactively using hand signals to tell him that something was wrong with the mask, and after he couldn't adjust it, making the call to end the dive.

So that's it really. You don't build up muscle memory (i.e. habits) by doing something correctly once. You need to do it several times. Before being confident to go out without a "leader", I need to (pretend to) be a leader or equal buddy, with the other person just there to take over and prevent catastrophes. Hopefully this is what I can accomplish in Barbados.

Oh, another thing: we didn't do any drift diving. I had the opportunity to go to the Orlando, FL area next month very cheap, as my wife was going there on business. I would have loved to go and do some dives around Palm Beach. But from what I've heard, they are all drift dives. If you get separated from the dive guide, you were supposed to deploy your DSMB, ascend, wait for the boat to come and get you and take you back to the group. Lots of people also said that it's actually really easy and completely suitable for a just-certified diver. You hardly need to move at all; just drift along with the current. Hmm, I don't buy it. A bit of poor buoyancy, and suddenly my current is a little different from the group's, and up I go into the middle of the ocean with a DSMB that I have never used before, followed by descending again to meet a group that are already down, in a current. I wouldn't want to do that before having done it a few times in controlled circumstances.

So there, very long answer to very short question. I have no complaints about the resort dive place. I knew what I was getting going in. But I need to be a (pretend) equal buddy in a controlled situation to build up my habits.
 

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