Nervous Spouse, drastic trim weight changes

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txgoose

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So this thread won't have anything for an experienced diver but might be entertaining. For a newer diver, especially ones just beginning pool dives, it might be useful.

I had the family signed up for certifications. The wife had to bail due to some GI issues. The boys and I got certified. I verified with the wife a couple of times that she had GI issues and wasn't signalling that she wanted out. She assured me that she was all in. As backstory, she is a water baby. Loves the water. Loves swimming. Got nervous.

I sign her up for a private class and I sign up for a buoyancy class so that I can be her dive buddy. We get into the pool that first Tuesday evening for snorkel skills and she is not in a happy place. Just out of sorts. Nervous and is breathing with lungs so full of air that she just can't seem to get under water to flood and clear her snorkel. She made it through the evening but wasn't very successful because of her hyper-buoyancy (?).

The following Thursday we got to don the BCs and learn to breath on the SCUBA. And again she was struggling to get negative. Just couldn't seem to get down. So I put some weight in her trim pockets back by the tank. Did wonders. Get her under and while she was still not super comfortable, after one minor panic with a free flowing regulator, she calmed down really well and finished strong. Including fixing three more free flows without issue as well as learning in the process to point the reg down.

That weekend we spent about four hours in the pool on our own, simply letting her float and breath through the snorkel. Dive at her own whim to flood her snorkel and clear it. We did mask clearing skills with the snorkel. I knew that she had turned a huge corner when I caught her clearing her mask, not as a drill, but just subconsciously when it was needed. May have been the best, if not a tad mundane, four hours I've spent with her in the water.

Fast forward to our fourth pool session this past Thursday and she was absolutely in misery in the deep end of the pool because she couldn't get her face down during her descents. Long story short, she had calmed her breathing so much that the weights in her trim pockets were now pulling her backwards when her lung capacity was down to something resembling a normal breathing pattern. Took the trim weights out and life got soooooo much easier.

The point of the post? Maybe a little to vent my excitement about my wife's willingness to stick it out to watch and learn and remain calm. And maybe a little to let new divers know that 1) it gets better if you are struggling at all. 2) a patient instructor can go a long way with a timid newb. 3) don't be surprised how much your setup changes early on as your skill level and comfort level grows exponentially during those first dives. Be kind to yourself as you learn.

One more pool session this Tuesday and then open water dives this coming weekend. I am beyond pumped about finding this awesome activity that we can all do together.

Thanks for reading,
txgoose
 
I sign her up for a private class and I sign up for a buoyancy class so that I can be her dive buddy.

The following Thursday we got to don the BCs and learn to breath on the SCUBA. And again she was struggling to get negative. Just couldn't seem to get down. So I put some weight in her trim pockets back by the tank.

txgoose

What did the instructor say about this? Wasn't it his job to fix this?

Congrats and all that. But if I had to step in and do an instructors job I wouldn't be pleased. And if I were the instructor and you were adding weights and trying to do my job for me I'd not be pleased.
 
What did the instructor say about this? Wasn't it his job to fix this?

Congrats and all that. But if I had to step in and do an instructors job I wouldn't be pleased. And if I were the instructor and you were adding weights and trying to do my job for me I'd not be pleased.

I don't have the experience to know how little I should help. My only goal being her buddy has been to help keep her at ease while the instructor imparted the knowledge parts. The way the weights came out seemed very mutual and symbiotic. We surfaced and he and I looked at each other and almost simultaneously said "it's time for the back weights to come out."

I would not at all disagree with the thought that he should be working on her trim but I also have had zero issues with his methodologies so far, so I guess I didn't see any issues. The trim weights came out after our first submersion of that evening. So I don't know how he could have caught it before then. There wasn't really a chance for him to voice the thought until we surfaced together.
 
I don't have the experience to know how little I should help.
Actually, you should not help at all. Zero. Even better, don't even be a buddy. Let the instructor do his job with no "family pressure" involved. If the instructor can't handle it, get a new instructor.

I don't mean to be mean, and you are clearly excited about her getting the swing of things, but the "Best Practice" is to back off, don't be the instructor, don't be a buddy, let her go and learn at her pace.
 
The trim weights came out after our first submersion of that evening. So I don't know how he could have caught it before then.

The trim weights should never have gone in to begin with.

Lots of new divers can't get under the surface and the common practice of adding weight is one step forward, two steps back.

That's not to say that the instructor wouldn't have done the exact same thing.
 
The only problem I have with that is it implies that I shouldn't have taken the class with my boys because I am confident that I inadvertently "helped" then as well. No? Should we have all taken separate classes? I didn't expect our wretched family dynamics to enter. Not saying it isn't valid. Just wasn't expecting it.
 
Yes, good advice about staying clear. I have seen non-family students buddied up where one winds up helping with fundamentals--to begin with, setting up the unit. But I do commend you for the pool work snorkeling, diving down, clearing mask, etc. I've always felt snorkeling and diving down/up sets you up nicely for breathing and mask problems that may occur. Interestingly, in some of the courses I assisted the snorkeling skill was done after 3 or all 4 pool sessions.
 
The trim weights should never have gone in to begin with.

Lots of new divers can't get under the surface and the common practice of adding weight is one step forward, two steps back.

That's not to say that the instructor wouldn't have done the exact same thing.
And this is definitely above my pay grade. The instructor knew the weights were there. And they did the trick up to what I perceived as better breathing? I am a total newb so I am not sure the right answer. Other than she seems to be progressing slowly but well?
 
Yes, good advice about staying clear. I have seen non-family students buddied up where one winds up helping with fundamentals--to begin with, setting up the unit. But I do commend you for the pool work snorkeling, diving down, clearing mask, etc. I've always felt snorkeling and diving down/up sets you up nicely for breathing and mask problems that may occur. Interestingly, in some of the courses I assisted the snorkeling skill was done after 3 or all 4 pool sessions.

She has been very calm after that pool session. I was worried about the mask clearing but she has been great with it. She is funny about a full mask clear, in that she doesn't "feel" the water in her mask and so sometimes it is only 80-ish percent full. But she can clear well and she can remove and replace her mask even after taking the time to index on the nose pocket to make sure it is oriented correctly (where the mask is now obviously full). I have been really pumped watching her learn. I think the snorkel session was vital to her getting to a happy place.
 
And this is definitely above my pay grade. The instructor knew the weights were there. And they did the trick up to what I perceived as better breathing? I am a total newb so I am not sure the right answer. Other than she seems to be progressing slowly but well?

The thing is - any changes should be at the hands of the instructor and not you. I don't want to beat you up because you were trying to help someone you love. But in a learning environment the instructor should be the ring master.

The reality is no harm was done and she is enjoying diving so you are all winning. The end result worked so who cares.
 

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