Need Advice: Considering G9 & Patima PDCH Housing

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SFLDiver3445

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I'm a pretty active diver, so I've been considering upgrading my camera setup and getting a new camera/housing/lenses to replace my existing point & shoot and to use with my existing dual Inon Z-240 Strobes. I'm currently using a Sony Cybershot Camera, with the Z-240 strobes connected via optical cables, and several Inon wet lenses (i.e., 2 close-up, 1 wide angle and 1 fisheye lens), which I can switch underwater - I love that! Here's a picture of my current setup:

Adrians_Camera_Setup_Pics_021.jpg


There's also few of my recent photos within my Scubaboard Gallery at:

http://www.scubaboard.com/gallery/showgallery.php/cat/500/ppuser/85531

I've considered going the route of an slr (Canon XTI or new XSI), but each time I crunch the numbers to see how much I would have to spend to get everything I would need/want (i.e., camera, housing, optical viewfinder, close-up & wide angle lenses, close-up and wide angle dome ports, sync cords, spare batteries, etc.), the sum total makes me second think my decision, especially since I'm currently shooting lots of pictures with my small system and am not overly disappointed with the results, and I'm having a lot of fun with it. However, with that in mind, my system has SEVERE limitations (i.e., housing offers no underwater manual setting controls & housing depth limitation is offically 132', even though I've already taken it to 200'), so I do need to eventually upgrade.

One option is to go the route getting the Canon G9, which is not an slr, but it does appear to be the next best thing. I've also recently become aware of the fact that Patima makes a hardcore housing for the G9, that would allow me to dive to the 100 meter range, which would be perfect because I do often enjoy deeper technical diving on my closed-circuit rebreather.

The G9 does present a few limitations in my scenario, as I would not be able to connect the strobes via the bulkhead and use the ttl on my strobes. I realize I can use optical cables and get the ttl that way, but then my camera is firing its flash each time and limiting the battery life. Also, the wet lenses compatible with the Patima ports are identical to the ones I currently own, except it requires a different connection (67mm threads as opposed to the Inon AD Mount) and an adapter doesn't seem to exist, so I would have to buy several new wet lenses for the new setup, which is doable.

So my questions are directed to the experienced photography crowd and to anybody with practical experience with the G9 and/or the Patima Housing:

*How good is the G9 compared to a basic SLR, such as the Canon XTI or XSI?

*What limitations does the G9 have that I may not have considered?

*How long will the G9 battery reasonably last when it is set on forced flash, as would be the case when using optical cables (my Sony's battery currently gives me approximately 230 to 250 shots)?

*Does the Patima Housing have any disadvantages, other than some feel at though the latches are not exactly ergonamically positioned?

*Are there any other camera/housing combinations, with at least similar capabilities and price point to the G9, that I should be considering when making this decision?


Any feedback that would assist me in making this decision would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

Adrian
 
I recently purchased the G9 and Ikelite system, and I'm very pleased with the results so far. Like you, I just couldn't get passed the high price of going SLR--I could go on a great dive trip and have money left over for the difference in price:-) The Ikelite housing is rated @ 200 feet, and is TTL compatible with Ike strobes which I also can recommend. The autofocus is not as fast as SLR, but still pretty good, and you can shoot macro, wide angle and movies on the same dive, composing thru the nice 3 inch LCD instead of peering thru an SLR window. Here are some pics from my first dives in the kelp forest of SoCal.
catalina_6_15_08 Photo Gallery by Mel Moncrieff at pbase.com

I'm going to Bonaire tomorrow--should be some good opportunities there!

Mel
 
I recently purchased the G9 and Ikelite system, and I'm very pleased with the results so far. Like you, I just couldn't get passed the high price of going SLR--I could go on a great dive trip and have money left over for the difference in price:-) The Ikelite housing is rated @ 200 feet, and is TTL compatible with Ike strobes which I also can recommend. The autofocus is not as fast as SLR, but still pretty good, and you can shoot macro, wide angle and movies on the same dive, composing thru the nice 3 inch LCD instead of peering thru an SLR window. Here are some pics from my first dives in the kelp forest of SoCal.
catalina_6_15_08 Photo Gallery by Mel Moncrieff at pbase.com

I'm going to Bonaire tomorrow--should be some good opportunities there!

Mel

Great pictures, thanks for sharing!

I actually did end up buying the G9 w/ the Patima Housing, because I already had the Inon Z-240 strobes. I also bought both the wide angle lens and 2 close-up lenses, even though I already had the same lenses, but they are AD Mounts instead of 67mm threaded.

I plan to do a night dive tonight on a couple of really nice wrecks and test out my stysem for the first time - Wish my luck!

Oh, have fun in Bonaire - I'm very jealous! I'm sure you'll get some great shots there as well!!

Adrian
 
Oh yeah, battery life seems to be about 220 pictures.

Thanks for the battery info. I searched online this week and found some after-market batteries for the G9 with a bit higher amperage. I bought two of them, because they were pretty inexpensive. Some people say you need to be careful with using those after-market batteries with cameras, but I used them with my Sony and never had a problem, plus I did get more power with them.

I already received them and they seem to power the camera just fine - I'll let you know once I do the Pepsi Head-To-Head Challenge against the original Canon Battery.
 
Is there a manual focus on the G9?
 
How does it work, which controls does it use? The zoom toggle left and right to adjust the focus? I am interested since lack of manual focus is one of the primary reasons for me to upgrade my camera...
 
How does it work, which controls does it use? The zoom toggle left and right to adjust the focus? I am interested since lack of manual focus is one of the primary reasons for me to upgrade my camera...

Hi Geoff,

I finally played with the manual focus tonight, so here's what I've learned. When you activate the manual focus feature, a square box opens up within the LCD. Then, using the control dial, which is a round wheel that you spin to adjust certain functions, you can adjust the focus on the particular point the small square within the LCD is focussed on. Once that small square is focussed, if you push the shutter button, the picture will be in fucus.

Just make sure the housing you buy controls the the control dial, because I think I read a previous thread that indicated that the Canon Housing does not offer conrols for that dial.
 

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