Need a Wing

[snewland01]

I just bought a pair of Faber LP 112 set up as doubles. Next I need to buy an appropriate wing. For now I’m planning to stay with a single blatter system.

It looks like the big options are:

40, 50, or 60 lbs of lift. I’m assuming I will be 20 lbs negative with full tanks
U or donut shape
Bands or No bands

I’m looking for some guidance.

Thanks in advance.

 

[whoji]

With Faber tanks be carefull with Donut wings, they sometimes damage the tanks. Stick to Horseshoe wings. Bands are good but make sure they are compatible with the manifold.
BTW which manifold do you have?

 

[cool_hardware52]

With Faber tanks be carefull with Donut wings, they sometimes damage the tanks. Stick to Horseshoe wings.

Please tell me more.

Tobin

 

[cool_hardware52]

I just bought a pair of Faber LP 112 set up as doubles. Next I need to buy an appropriate wing. For now I’m planning to stay with a single blatter system.

It looks like the big options are:

40, 50, or 60 lbs of lift. I’m assuming I will be 20 lbs negative with full tanks
U or donut shape
Bands or No bands

I’m looking for some guidance.

Thanks in advance.

I'd suggest finding some local mentor who can help you. Proper set up and use of doubles is more than selecting the correct wing, bands and manifold. Doubles provide enough gas to get you in to trouble. Doubles offer increased redundancy, but also provide more things to screw up.

Find a qualified instructor, or at least somebody who is successfully using doubles now.

Have them explain how a manifold works etc.

As far as selecting a wing, the volume of your tanks (2 x 112) is only part of the question. The buoyancy of your exposure suit will have a direct impact on the required capacity of your wing.

I'd be happy to make a recommendation when you have all the required information.

Tobin

 

[snewland01]

Thanks for the comments so far.

For now I'm diving wet (3mm).
The manifold is Diverite 200 bar.
For now I will be re-using my DSS SS backplate from my single tanks set-up.(Love it)

I'm current working thru my SSI Tech Fundimental couse and will use my instructor as a resource.

SN

 

[texdiveguy]

I'm current working thru my SSI Tech Fundimental couse and will use my instructor as a resource.

SN

There is your answer to your questions!

 

[cool_hardware52]

Thanks for the comments so far.

For now I'm diving wet (3mm).
The manifold is Diverite 200 bar.
For now I will be re-using my DSS SS backplate from my single tanks set-up.(Love it)

I'm current working thru my SSI Tech Fundimental couse and will use my instructor as a resource.

SN

With 2 x 112's you will have about 17 lbs of air or nitrox, so you will want to start the dive negative by ~17 lbs.

Your current 3mm suit is probably only 4-8 lbs buoyant.

A SS plate and harness is about - 6 lbs, the tank bands and manifold is about -5, your dual regs are about -5 and a can light is about -2. Your bottles empty are about -2 lbs for both.

Your rig, with full bottles, will be about -35 lbs without a can light. With empty tanks your rig will be about - 18 lbs. That means you will be about 10-14 lbs over weighted in your 3mm wetsuit, not so good. In the event of a buoyancy failure you can't even stay at the surface with empty tanks!

I'd suggest aluminum 80's and a lightweight back plate if you stick with the 3mm suit.

If you stay with the tanks / plate / suit you listed you could dive with a small wing. Our Torus 38 would be my first choice, but you need to plan for some form of redundant buoyancy. I expect that you will soon want more exposure protection, and that will require a higher capacity wing. A Torus 49 would be a reasonable choice for the inevitable Drysuit.

Tobin

 

[battles2a5]

I have the same set of tanks (Faber 108s, same as OMS 112's). Diving wet, I did well w/ a DR Classic wing (59lb lift, single bladded, horseshor, non-banded). When diving dry, this wing isn't great. Keep in mind that Faber's are rolled tanks, and they aren't tail-heavy like PSTs or Worthington's. They are also "light" and are positively bouyant when empty. This combination, the lack of tail weight and overall lack of negative weight, made me pretty head-heavy. I ended up w/ a 7lb assymetrical v-weight and a tail weight on top of my SS BP with a TLS350 and 200g thinsulate undies. I also had to use the bottom set of holes in my wing to in order to trim out and I feel like it puts extra stress on my hoses. Since you are already a customer of Tobin's, I would look at a Taurus wing or another wing that holds more lift in the shoulders to balance out those tanks. You experience may be different so use what you have and figure out what you need to do to get good trim and then devise a plan for new gear, if necessary.

 

[texdiveguy]

I would seriously sugg. some redundant bouyancy if you continue to dive steel doubles in a wet suit....either a dual bladder wing or a stacked wing set-up....with a lift bag/SMB being secondary to a redundant wing/bladder.

 

[SeaLevelScuba]

Scott, gimme a shout tommorrow at the store and we can review this. Part of the equation will be how you and the rig balance out in the water, I got another person that will be making the transition to the doubles side of diving with exactly the same delima, unfortunately your physical body will play a part into this as well, the equipment of diving is just a piece of the puzzle.

Tobin, I'm sending you a pm.

Schott