Medic First Aid Course

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As I only recently returned to diving I am not (yet) a part of the British diving medical establishment, so may have a slightly different perspective than most.

As an experienced immediate care doctor providing the equivalent of ATLS and ACLS in the community, having been involved in the traning of first-aiders for St John Ambulance and the British Red Cross and the training of Britsh Army medics, I am aware of a number of shortcomings of a number of diver orientated first-aid courses. To my mind many are little more than a bog-standard course taught by a diving instructor, who did the course himself only the year before.

Is this good enough, I wonder?

In Britain at least, diving activities largely take place in remote areas, often 20 or so nautical miles from the nearest habitation, let alone close to a hospital. Even if a helicopter is mobilised to the scene of an incident the casualty is likely to remain untreated for over an hour, long past the golden hour for survival.

The US army recognised the value of early definitive treatment during WW II and in Vietnam, and introduced specialist training for combat medics, over and above that of simple first aid and CPR, thereby saving numerous lives.

There are a number of diving related injuries that are entirely specific to diving and are not normally seen in medical practice, so the chances of being treated by a doctor or paramedic with specialist knowledge of DCI, pulmonary barotrauma and acute hypothermia for example, is remote indeed. Unlike in the commercial sector, there is no statutory requirement for sport clubs to have qualified specialist medical or paramedical cover, which would be impractical in any case.

At risk of raising a few hackles, might I suggest that each club already has a number of divers who are well able to learn to recognise specific diving injuries and provide advanced first aid in cases of those injuries, provided they are adequately trained.

For example endotracheal intubation (or the modern equivalent of the oropharyngeal cuffed airway), needle decompression for pulmonary barotrauma and IV line fluid replacement for DCI, perhaps?

I know people do not take up diving or car driving in order to suffer injury but diving incidents and road traffic accidents do occur. At least in the latter case qualified paramedics are very soon on seen.

Your comments, ladies and gentlemen, please?

Paul T
 
Brothers & Sisters of Dive Medicine,

Get your basics down.

CPR, (a.k.a. BLS - Basic Life Support)
First Aid - Contact your local Red Cross branch
And make a kit/medic bag.

There are web sites for medical considerations regarding other outdoor activities. These offer plenty of help as well:

www.equipped.com - Medical kits
www.tacticalforums.com - T.E.M.S.
www.bladeforums.com - Tactics & Training
www.knifeforums.com - Outdoor Survival

Then add your training to the mix. And know the location and contact information for emergency medical assistance; i.e.
Start with your LDS. Then:
Police Dept.
Lake Patrol
Sheriffs Dept.
Ambulance in dive area
Hospital
Location of nearest phone to dive site
Cell phone
Radio or Ship-to-Shore
Coast Guard office, and frequencies
And so forth.
And HOW to use these resources!

Always dive as though your life depends on it! (sic)

Your PCP, (Primary care Physician), can help you, too!
Doctor will either give you guidance from their own experience or be able to direct you to diving medicine referals.

An M.D. as a dive buddy, hmmm...I LIKE it!

Regards,
Lance Gothic
Shibumi
 
Hi Lance,

An MD as a dive buddy? OK but what about if I am the casualty? I would also like to receive timely help myself!

I agree with what you say but bear in mind I do have some experience of first-aid as she is taught in the community and as I said, above, many diver medic courses are little more than a bog-standard course taught by a diving instructor who did the course himself only the year before.

I admittedly have a bee in my bonnet over pulmonary baraotrauma. BLS or CPR is totally ineffective in the case of tension pneumothorax but chest decompression could be life saving if it is performed in time.

This technique is not so difficult. If you want some idea of the principle involved, our hero George Cluny performed a needle thoracostomy on one of the casualties in the movie "Three Kings". (He obviously learned something while on E R !). Possibly worth a look but do bear in mind this was a movie and although gun-shot sucking chest wounds do not (normally) occur in diving, pulmonary barotrauma does and the effects and the treatment of a consequential tension pneumothorax are the same!
 
Bothers & Sisters of Dive Medicine,
Dr. Paul Thomas,

As was pointed out earlier by "kelpermaid" the presentation of first aid in school was important. However, current trends are to offer lesser emphasis with scholastic scheduling.

Personally, I would feel undertrained to venture off without adequate training or, at the very least, familiarization with the associated factors of involvement.

I began diving in 1962. U.S. military. Security. Aviation. Hostage Rescue. Sheriff's Department EMT. S&R Diver. I am currently a BMET (Biomedical Equipment Technician - http://www.ntba.org/). I will be pursuing the ACLS, CBET and additional training. And have support for advancement to whatever the future brings.

Most friends, (divers, jumpers, pilots, the lot), are prior military, medic or highly skilled. And we all share a similar degree of background. (Hence the reference to www.tacticalforums.com - T.E.M.S.)

Safety & Security...Don't leave home without them!

Here are some additional sites available regarding the issues:
(www.google.com - search "Dive Medicine"). www.UtahDiving.com.

Second childhood can be fun. Even with the occasional Senior Moment!

Regards,
Lance Gothic
Shibumi
 
The "Medic First Aid" course is tought by a person that is not a profesional in this area. What it takes, for a PADI instructor to teach this course, is a 2-day crash course in teaching others to give CPR. In my opinion, this is a very unprofesional course, unless, the instructor went through some other form of CPR instrucing training, on his own. Better go to an "NSC" or whatever, CPR profecionals course, than take the rescue diver course, where you are suposed to be tought about the diving aspect of it.
 
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