Jacket style Back Inflation vs Wing Style

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Good day fellow divers

I need advice about jacket style back inflation bcd's and wing style bcd's
Which one of the two are the best? Can you replace only the bladder or do you have to buy a whole new bcd if it is damaged? Is there any jacket style back inflation Bcd's which can take two tanks?:dontknow:

Thanks
 
When most refer to "jacket style" BC's they mean the type in which the air bladder comes around to the front of the BC. Back inflate BC's have the air bladder strictly in the rear. In hybrids, the bladder comes about 1/3 of the way around the side, but it is mostly back inflate. A BP/W is a type of back inflate BC. I have all 4 types of BC's. I no longer use the jacket inflate BC,... just too bulky & I don't like the all around squeeze it gives you. I use the hybrid for teaching in the pool. It holds me horizontal in the water & a little more stable on the surface. I use a traditional type back inflate BC (not BP/W) for recreational OW diving & teaching in the OW. I use my BP/W for my technical equipment (double cylinders). There are many who like the BP/W for single tank recreational diving. The like the way it is modular & parts can be swapped out to personalize it to their needs & body type. Personally I found with the single tank adapter, it held the tank higher off my back & was a little more unstable, than a traditional type BC, but that is just me. Many don't have that issue. With doubles, it is quite stable. The really only way to see if you'll like it or not, is to dive it.

If on a traditional style back inflate BC, the bladder is ruptured beyond a simple repair, then yes, a whole new BC must be purchased. With a BP/W, the inner bladder can be changed out. My question is what will you plan to do that is that rough on a BC? The materials that most BC's are made of is very tough. There are environments that can be very rough on BC's, but that is usually advanced type diving (wrecks, caves,.....). You are not very likely to have anything like that happen in OW.

As for a traditional BC that can handle doubles, there are a few. I know Zeagle's Black Diamond can. Whether they are stable or not, I don't know. For doubles I use the BP/W.
 
Good day fellow divers

I need advice about jacket style back inflation bcd's and wing style bcd's
Which one of the two are the best? Can you replace only the bladder or do you have to buy a whole new bcd if it is damaged? Is there any jacket style back inflation Bcd's which can take two tanks?:dontknow:

Thanks

Yes, the Zeagle Ranger is a back-inflate and will take doubles. The bladder can be swapped out without having to replace the whole BC. Frankly, I would NEVER buy a BC that had to be completely replaced because of a bladder or any other component needing to be replaced....

Moreover - Zeagle BC's are VERY rugged. You will commonly hear of divers who've been diving a Ranger for 10+ years. Their warranty is second to none. They are expensive, but well worth it. I dive a Ranger LTD and love it.

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When most refer to "jacket style" BC's they mean the type in which the air bladder comes around to the front of the BC. Back inflate BC's have the air bladder strictly in the rear. In hybrids, the bladder comes about 1/3 of the way around the side, but it is mostly back inflate. A BP/W is a type of back inflate BC. I have all 4 types of BC's. I no longer use the jacket inflate BC,... just too bulky & I don't like the all around squeeze it gives you. I use the hybrid for teaching in the pool. It holds me horizontal in the water & a little more stable on the surface. I use a traditional type back inflate BC (not BP/W) for recreational OW diving & teaching in the OW. I use my BP/W for my technical equipment (double cylinders). There are many who like the BP/W for single tank recreational diving. The like the way it is modular & parts can be swapped out to personalize it to their needs & body type. Personally I found with the single tank adapter, it held the tank higher off my back & was a little more unstable, than a traditional type BC, but that is just me. Many don't have that issue. With doubles, it is quite stable. The really only way to see if you'll like it or not, is to dive it.

If on a traditional style back inflate BC, the bladder is ruptured beyond a simple repair, then yes, a whole new BC must be purchased. With a BP/W, the inner bladder can be changed out. My question is what will you plan to do that is that rough on a BC? The materials that most BC's are made of is very tough. There are environments that can be very rough on BC's, but that is usually advanced type diving (wrecks, caves,.....). You are not very likely to have anything like that happen in OW.

As for a traditional BC that can handle doubles, there are a few. I know Zeagle's Black Diamond can. Whether they are stable or not, I don't know. For doubles I use the BP/W.

The Black Diamond is made by SeaQuest, not Zeagle...
 
I know the Scubapro Classic and the Knighthawk can accomodate doubles. The Classic is a jacket style and the Knighthawk is a back inflate.

Some people will tell you they don't like a jacket bc because it will squeeze you. I've dove the Classic for years and the only way it will squeeze you is if you really pump it up. The only time I ever pump it up much is if I'm resting at the surface and there is probably no better bc for the surface than a jacket.

As far as diving with one or with any style bc for that matter, what you will find is if you are properly weighted, then you will need to put very little air in a bc during a dive. If you have to put so much air in a jacket bc to get you buoyancy right until it squeezes you, then you have too much weight. I actually don't put any air in my bc during a dive unless I get down to maybe 100 ft or so and then I find I may add a little. For a diver who has their weighting and bouyancy dialed in, a bc becomes pretty much just something to hold your tank and clip off a few things to.

An experienced diver can have equally good trim in a jacket, back inflate, or BP/W because the small amount of air you may add in the bc is first going to the back area anyway. For those divers who have yet to master the art of really good buoyancy control, maybe a back inflate or a BP/W would feel better to them than a jacket.
 
BP/W for me. I used to dive a jacket and felt uncomfortable. I love the versatility of the BP and wing. The Zeagle ranger is a good one, but it was too spongy for me. I like the rigidity of a BP system. Do you ave anyone around that you could try them both out? Perhaps that would help with a few of your questions.
 
BP/W for me. I used to dive a jacket and felt uncomfortable. I love the versatility of the BP and wing. The Zeagle ranger is a good one, but it was too spongy for me. I like the rigidity of a BP system. Do you ave anyone around that you could try them both out? Perhaps that would help with a few of your questions.

Thanks, there is only one person at the dive shop that dives with back inflated bcd, he uses the Scubapro Knighthawk, I used that and it feels very comfortable and much better than the jacket style, but can the Knighthawk accommodate 2 tanks?

thanks
 
but can the Knighthawk accommodate 2 tanks?

thanks


Yes. Look at the back and you'll see the place where you can bolt in a set of doubles. If you like the Knighthawk, you may want to look at their new Seahawk for 2010. Several people have told me they like it a little better than the Knighthawk. I like the way they did the pockets on it. I just ordered one!
 
While many jacket style BCD's will accomodate doubles, a true backplate & wing setup will prove to be a far more stable platform for the extra weight and bulk on your back. A crotch strap also helps provide additional stability for the rig, and these are available on many BCD's.
 

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