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All,

I just came from the Edmund Fitzgerald website. They lovingly call it, "the Fitz".

I read in there that of the 6000 plus wrecks that are in Lake Superior, none is more prestigious than the Fitz.

That got me to thinking. People have told me that the Gunilda is the most prestigious, others have said that it is the Andrea Doria(I know that it is not in the Great Lakes). The Fitz is sitting in about 520 feet of water. The Gunilda is in 280 feet of water, I have no clue what depth the Andrea Doria is in. On the other hand, the Empress of Ireland is in I think 160 feet give or take. Is it depth that makes a wreck prestigious?

Now, the Fitz has been declared a Legal Grave Site, and as such will never be dived again.(never legally anyway)

I guess what my question really is. Which wreck really is the Everest of diving? Or is it simply different peoples opinion?

Safe Dives,

Will Johnson
 
Good question.... how about more locally? What's the most prestigious Southern Ontario wreck?
 
Essroc123:
All,

I just came from the Edmund Fitzgerald website. They lovingly call it, "the Fitz".

I read in there that of the 6000 plus wrecks that are in Lake Superior, none is more prestigious than the Fitz.

That got me to thinking. People have told me that the Gunilda is the most prestigious, others have said that it is the Andrea Doria(I know that it is not in the Great Lakes). The Fitz is sitting in about 520 feet of water. The Gunilda is in 280 feet of water, I have no clue what depth the Andrea Doria is in. On the other hand, the Empress of Ireland is in I think 160 feet give or take. Is it depth that makes a wreck prestigious?

Now, the Fitz has been declared a Legal Grave Site, and as such will never be dived again.(never legally anyway)

I guess what my question really is. Which wreck really is the Everest of diving? Or is it simply different peoples opinion?

Safe Dives,

Will Johnson

We've been through these discussions before - do the search. You'll find that these was no consensus on which wreck is the Everest - we all have our own ideas of what Everest is

Sometimes the deepest wreck (excludign Fitz, that would be Gunilda form your list) is not nesessarily the toughest. Doppler, and other people who dove all three (Gunilda, Empress and Doria), seem to think that Empress gets the prize

The real question is - why do you need an Everest in the first place?
 
I have to say for me it would be the Gunilda but would also like to dive the Empress before I leave this world. More so the Gunilda though. I have seen pictures of her and watched the documentaries and it looks very interesting. It's all subject to what interests you.
 
vlada:
The real question is - why do you need an Everest in the first place?

I myself do not need an Everest at all. I realize that this is not a competition. Simply a casual interest.

Safe Dives,

Will Johnson
 
Essroc123:
I myself do not need an Everest at all. I realize that this is not a competition. Simply a casual interest.

Safe Dives,

Will Johnson


Oh come on now!! Who said anything about a competition? The question is simple: when you're sitting around, talking about places you'd love to dive, what comes to mind?
If I had an interest in climbing Everest, it would be simply to do it, not as any kind of competition. It's only YOU that makes it competitive.... so relax... have fun.... if you don't want to answer the question, there's no need to belittle someone for asking it. By chiming in and saying, "I'm above this type of discussion", you are involving yourself in it.

Discussion makes the world go round.....
 
CDN ff:
Oh come on now!! Who said anything about a competition? The question is simple: when you're sitting around, talking about places you'd love to dive, what comes to mind?
If I had an interest in climbing Everest, it would be simply to do it, not as any kind of competition. It's only YOU that makes it competitive.... so relax... have fun.... if you don't want to answer the question, there's no need to belittle someone for asking it. By chiming in and saying, "I'm above this type of discussion", you are involving yourself in it.

Discussion makes the world go round.....

I think you are reading too much into Essroc123's answer - i do not think he was belittling anyone.

When i asked the question about why someone needed an Everest, i just wanted to make sure that it was not one of those situations that someone just starting diving is thinking of doing Doria next year.

I have nothing against people deciding to do stuff like Doria and Gunilda early on in their diving careers, as long as everyone realizes that to get from zero to the level required to do Gunilda and Doria safely AND enjoy the dives, would require years of training and tens of thousands of $$$

Now back to the productive discussion
 
Listen boys, I know Will. He is extremely interested in diving and although he is a new diver (very new) he has alot of interest in what is out there. Asking a question about what others feel is THEIR everest is just a way of learning. We have had several discussions on equipment and other issues and although we don't agree with each other all the time, we are at least talking about something that we both love with a passion.
 

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