Is there a frog kick video?

[fisherdvm]

How is it done? It seems so straight forward in the water. How do you go backward vs. forward?

Is it simply the breast stroke kick, or is it modified?

 

[mania]

Here you have all:
frog kick
modified frog kick
modified flutter
backkick

and so on
http://www.hogarthian.pl/?op=warsztat&xx=filmy

 

[DIR-Atlanta]

Is it simply the breast stroke kick, or is it modified?

It is modified. You want your body position to be flat, with your back arched and the lower abdomen as the lowest point. The thighs and knees should remain in the same plane with the chest.

Most of the motion comes from the calves and ankles - you should not be moving your thighs and knees much, if at all. The above posted video link illustrates this pretty well.

 

[fisherdvm]

Thanks! Great videos. It is different than the breast stroke kicks I am taught, because the knees are farther apart.

Seems like the helicopter has both feet going opposite rotations - one clock wise, and one counter clockwise - am I correct?

 

[BabyDuck]

hold your legs pretty still, while moving your feet at the ankle like you're clapping your soles. clap from heel to toe. do it every dive until your legs are tired, go to another kick, then go back to frog when you've recovered, & before you know it you've done it all dive & feel great!

backwards is a bit tougher. you keep your feet flat. the best way i've found to get the 'feel' of it is to practice in just swimwear with a float in your hands. practice moving your feet so that you go backwards. then when you know what it's supposed to feel like, try underwater.

yep, you're right about helicopter.

all are fun! best of luck!

 

[Jason B]

A couple more....

http://www.5thdx.com/videos/frogkick.html


http://www.5thdx.com/videos/backkick.html

 

[DIR-Atlanta]

Seems like the helicopter has both feet going opposite rotations - one clock wise, and one counter clockwise - am I correct?

A helicopter turn can be done three ways:

• One legged back-kick in the direction of the turn (i.e. back-kick with right leg to turn right)
• One legged frog-kick in the direction opposite the turn (i.e. frog-kick with left leg to turn right)
• Above two methods combined and used simutaneously

The one legged back-kick results in a tighter turn than the one-legged frog kick (note: the non-kicking foot must be held flat to reduce drag). The combined method allows you to turn more quickly.

Note also that all these kicks actually represent an entire range of motion, from full-on kicks using both calves and ankles, to a scaled down version that uses the ankles only. With practice, you can actually helicopter turn pretty effectively just by flicking one ankle. This technique works well in close quarters, and allows the kicks to be adapted to a wide range of environments.

 

[Ber Rabbit]

Do you HAVE to use both fins to helicopter? I can turn by rotating one ankle but don't seem to have the coordination required to get the second foot to do what it should.

BTW, it's taken me 2 years to get coordinated enough to get both feet to look like they are doing the same thing when I try to frog kick. It still isn't pretty but it's getting more functional.
Ber :lilbunny:

edit: DIR-Atlanta is creeping me out answering my questions as soon as I think of them but before I can type them.

 

[BabyDuck]

i think part of passing fundies is mind reading...[twilight zone music]

 

[texdiveguy]

http://www.thumpershole.com/dir_training.htm