I can't stand know it alls

[scubaranger]

Ok here go's. My Nitrox class got cancelled at the last minute so I really wanted to get wet and I had my day planed for it so I jumped on board with My LDS OW class to tag along I've done this before and I usually have a good dive plus I also wanted to test my new computer. First thing first I'm new to this with only 40 dives in one year I know that I don't know it all. My complain was their was this guy who was diving for the first time but listening to him it was like he was a Jacques Coustea he just went on and on I usually keep quit. Until he said he caught 58 lobsters last mini season. after asking him twenty question he said he got them from an unmarked traps. I proceeded to tell him how the fishing industry works because my friend does this for a living. I had to just get up and walk away.

I've seen this a couple times on a dive boat the one that talks the most(except instructors,DM and the Capt) is usually the one that has no clue. That's why I usually keep quit and observe and try to pick up stuff from others like a sea sponge.
Thats my 2 psi.

That's why God gave us two ears and one mouth to listen twice as much more then what we should speak.

alex t.

 

[garyfotodiver]

Very well put sentiment. Since I am not a dive professional, I try to not give unsolicited advice on a boat (or this forum), and I do listen to the captain and the DM.

 

[CD_in_Chitown]

on a dive boat the one that talks the most(except instructors,DM and the Capt) is usually the one that has no clue.

It happens lots of places besides dive boats. :11:

 

[Uncle Pug]

Those who have no clue by definition do not know it all.

Cut them some slack, they are probably just as nervous as the fellow sitting there silently with sweat on his upper lip.

 

[scubaranger]

True but if your going to speak alot:
1) Do it on a material that you know about.
2)If your speaking then your not listening especially during important DM breifing.
3)Don't distract others when they need to hear important info.
4)Sometimes people listen to these type of people and that gets them in trouble.

 

[The Chairman]

What Ron is saying is that this is a CLASSIC sign of fear. They either speak WAY TOO MUCH or they shut completely up. I'll bet if you watched his bubbles, that they all kind of ran together... like he was hyperventilating rather than taking individual breaths. I also bet he ended the dive a bit prematurely due to low air.

Sure, cut the guy some slack... but better yet listen to what he is really telling you. Even better, try to allay that fear before the dive. I will gladly take the worst diver under my wing as a buddy. That way I know where he is the entire dive and can intervene before he hurts himself. The best rescue is one that never has to happen.

But then the guy could be just a braggert! After all is said and done... there is usually a lot more said than done.

 

[Scuba_John]

Just as a side note: Uncle Pug is correct and this is something Instuctors and DMs look for as a sign of Possible errors in diving judgement. Since this was an OW class it would be his first set of dives it is also understandable that one would be nervous.

 

[scubaranger]

I understand fear but stealing lobster from a trap and taking twice your limit.Where is his fear in that one. In the same dive I ended being buddys with some one not from the class. He started to act bizzare under water we where at about 20 ft. I asked him if he was ok he said he felt disorented. I told him let's surface after telling him three times and almost swimming into the propeller we surface he started to feel better he wanted me to leave him on the throw line I told him NO after about 5 min. we continue the dive I stayed close to the boat and I was on him the entire time he ended not diving on the second dive. I felt bad for this guy and I would diffenently cut this guy some slack he was worried about my dive I told him I was morraly responsible for him and if he wanted we would go up together. as for the student I'm sorry he didn't have fear he was just well you know what I want to say.

 

[Scuba_John]

Sorry I did not say, While I like lobster I don't condone any action that is taking someone elses catch. I should also note that since he is in OW class this action wold have been done while un trained if on SCUBA at the time. Which if he was on SCUBA is in most part not allowed.Good call on the buddy system and whileyou may lose the dive time you have tomorrow to dive again.